Jürgen Klinsmann vs Bruce Arena ?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Clad, Sep 30, 2017.

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Who would have be better for the 2018 World Cup in your opinion?

  1. Jürgen Klinsmann

    35.1%
  2. Bruce Arena

    64.9%
  1. Clad

    Clad Member

    Oct 15, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Not been following the USMNT. But Jürgen Klinsmann made the US play in an exciting way. Am not American but I was excited and decided to support them. I thought immediately after WC the decision was Jürgen Klinsmann would be given another World Cup term. So why did he leave, was he fired, if so why, I dont know the exact circumstances, can not find it on wikipedia.

    Jürgen Klinsmann vs Bruce Arena, who do you think is the better coach? My gut tells me the departure of Klinsman will backfire.
     
  2. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    @OP the Easter Bunny would do the best job.

    Quality thread.
     
  3. Clad

    Clad Member

    Oct 15, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Made a spelling error on poll. Should be:
    Who would have been better for the 2018 World Cup in your opinion?

    Sorry...
     
  4. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    We saw flashes of "exciting play" play from Klinsmann, but in the big competitive games the U.S. hung on for dear life and hoped for the best. Ghana game was pretty much the only time it actually worked.

    Anyway, I think Klinsmann and Arena are pretty much on the same level as coaches. Neither seem to have any ideas how to compensate for the current state of the pool, which lacks high end veterans in their prime.
     
  5. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hate to do this but, "Who would be better for the 2018 World Cup?
     
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  6. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Klinsmann's in way better shape, so I lean toward him. Although Bruce fights dirty.
     
  7. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    I think @Clad might be that Erik Kirschbaum guy.
     
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  8. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They both suck and we deserve better. The USSF needs to get their heads out of their ass. Neither should be coaching us in the 2018 WC and because of both of them we may miss it.
     
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  9. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unnecessary thread, players visibly quit on JK. No manager should be around for two cycles Arena proved that himself.
     
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  10. beerslinger23

    beerslinger23 Member+

    Jun 26, 2010
    Could be true, we do not know for sure what the background was or what the factions were. Even if it is true it does not imply:


    Also could be true. I am sure there are cases of managers doing well over two cycles. If success is defined as winning the WC then anything else is failure so once again opinion and fact are being presented as one and the same here.
    He was an instance of failure of a two cycle manager. His failure does not adequately demonstrate the general case as being true.
     
  11. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, players visibly quit on JK. But with Arena the players think they are lions while they play like pussies housecats.
     
  12. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    I'm disappointed. I thought this was going to be about an upcoming cage fight on ESPN....
     
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  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Don't worry, everything will fix itself magically once Tab takes over.
     
  14. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    tab?? are you crazy?? what has he done to be the heir-apparent???

    re: BA and JK: they are neck and neck, but i give the edge to bruce....

    when you peel away the superficial differences they are surprisingly similar coaches, imo.
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada


    Interesting opinion
     
  16. RoyalYank

    RoyalYank Member

    DCUnited
    United States
    Jun 12, 2017
    Alexandria, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arena by far.
     
  17. RoyalYank

    RoyalYank Member

    DCUnited
    United States
    Jun 12, 2017
    Alexandria, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ha!
     
  18. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Despite his firing, I believe JK would have turned things around. His lack of being humble certainly didn't help his case.
     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    One of the last things Klinsmann said as a US coach, after the destruction by the Ticos, was something along the lines of "losses like this will always happen, from time to time."

    I imagine him talking to Sunil, the day he got fired:

    Sunil: "I need you to guarantee it, that you will turn it around, and that we'll be in Russia."
    Klinsmann: "I cannot do that. It's very likely we'll do it, but I just cannot offer you my personal guarantee."
    Sunil: "So, you expect to lose again? To miss the World Cup?"
    Klinsmann: "That's always a possibility."

    So it wasn't the bravado, the double-talk, the mediocre youth results, or the terrible product on the field with the main team that cost him the job. In the end, it was a flash of honesty.
     
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  20. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No they didn't, we just sucked
     
  21. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    I guess we'll never know, but it seems we will debate it forever...
     
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  22. JamieBmore

    JamieBmore Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    How could anyone pick Klinsmann? Ugh. He is there with Steve Sampson as all time worst USMNT coach. The guy who thought Julian Green was more valuable than Landon Donovan. o_O
     
  23. RoyalYank

    RoyalYank Member

    DCUnited
    United States
    Jun 12, 2017
    Alexandria, VA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    poor team selection by Jurgen, plenty of talent left off the field, or not even in the team.
     
  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Wonder if Klinsi's golden parachute was so big, he won't ever work again.

    If that's the case, the USSF did good for the world.
     
  25. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bruce has us on the edge of failure to qualify for the World Cup.

    And yet there are still posters either pining of Klinsmann, or trashing him as the worst coach ever.

    Hilarious.
     

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