It's over. AC is dead.

Discussion in 'St Louis FC' started by demunb, Nov 23, 2010.

  1. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. demunb

    demunb Member

    Feb 23, 2007
    Crystal City, MO
    Club:
    St. Louis Lions
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Very sad. We've been hearing the same from Players and Front Office Personnel since the middle of last week, and we all assumed this was the case since early December. The positive here is that we still have the Lions and they have ambitions to move up the USL ladder. I hope to see old friends and make some new ones in Cottleville.
     
  3. drSoFlaFan

    drSoFlaFan DEFEND THE FORT!

    Feb 25, 2008
    Plantation, FL
    Club:
    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn, must suck so bad to be a St. Louis soccer fan. At least you do have the Lions, but it's a real shame the way things went down with AC and Cooper, especially how this club died a slow, painful death starting really while they were still playing matches.

    We've lost two pretty good markets in D2 this off season, first Austin and now STL. RIP AC.
     
  4. Redhawk1

    Redhawk1 Member

    May 12, 2006
    AC STL was in bad shape from Day 1. Cooper NEVER had the money to operate a franchise in the first place.
     
  5. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and Garber knew it.
     
  6. residentbenchwarmer

    residentbenchwarmer New Member

    Sep 23, 2007
    Chesterfield, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Timmerman says it's over.
    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/soccer/article_4a85b488-0fbd-56d2-b17e-b408d13532e9.html

    *Sigh*...I guess MLS was right all along (well, we've known that for a while, haven't we?) I wonder if Cooper had his heart in the right place originally and then just bit off more than he could chew when he couldn't find anybody else to partner with, or if he pulled the wool over our eyes for the past seven years and fleeced us?
     
  7. Mikey mouse

    Mikey mouse Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Charleston, SC
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess Nike and USL knew too when they didnt sell to Cooper in Aug of 2009.

    It would be interesting to hear both MLS and Nike perspectives why they didnt sell to him after a few beers.
     
  8. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the problem. Cooper talked big and extravagant in 2006 when he was trying to get an MLS team but when it came time to actually PAY up he's shown his true colors.

    Pro sports team investors are supposed to have a 5 year plan but for Cooper he couldn't even last 2 years with the Athletica and only 1 with AC St.Louis!

    Didn't all you guys think he was certainly more committed than this and didn't you expect more out of him??
     
  9. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think more of us are leaning towards the reality that Cooper never had the committment to even support a WPS/NASL team much less an MLS. Although he certainly seems to have the financial wherewithal to do the former since he's worth between $100 to $200 million and probably closer to $200 million.

    The question is if Cooper was never serious about this to begin with then WHY did he go to so much trouble getting on the media and publicizing his effort to get pro soccer if he never intended to carry through??
     
  10. sirfallsalot_2000

    Apr 18, 2006
    St. Louis, MO
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    When I started posting on these board it was with a legitimate hope of an MLS team. Then when that fizzled I started supporting what I thought was the start of something great with AC STL. Now I am left with one word: disillusioned. The roller coaster ride has been too much for me. I will support USMNT and Arsenal as I struggle to support an MLS team. I will try to make it to a Lions game, but it just doesn't carry the same promise in my mind. Until next time...
     
  11. Redhawk1

    Redhawk1 Member

    May 12, 2006
    I told everyone on here 3 years ago what the deal was.....no one believed me.
     
  12. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on all the events that have transpired over the past 2 to 3 years the MLS team was just a delusion in Cooper's mind.
     
  13. rreynolds2186

    rreynolds2186 Member

    Jun 30, 2008
    Newton, IL
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Long live AC STL. We'll always have the scarves.
     
  14. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What did you say 3 years ago? If Redhawk doesn't come here anymore then does anyone know what he said 3 years ago?
     
  15. REALfootballRulez

    May 25, 2007
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That reminds me that I still have to get an Athletica scarf! I'm sure rokagrl still has some.
     
  16. dccoulthard

    dccoulthard New Member

    Sep 6, 2009
    Valier, IL
    Club:
    Toulouse FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I....told....you....so....!
     
  17. time4wine

    time4wine Member

    Mar 13, 2009
    St. Louis
    Club:
    St. Louis Lions
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    but to be fair, it could have easily have gone the other way if someone would have stepped up (ie Woods).
    but it's ok, something bright is on the horizon and it is awesome!
     
  18. Redhawk1

    Redhawk1 Member

    May 12, 2006
    I said Cooper NEVER had the money to begin. He stated in the paper, on the radio and on TV that the funding WAS there and EVERYTHING was in place. he even stated he had an investor worth $500 million.

    I feel sorry for the people that actually believed him.
     
  19. Redhawk1

    Redhawk1 Member

    May 12, 2006
    Well we're NOT getting an MLS team.....and the NASL could be in trouble in general with the USSF. AC STL is NOT coming back. The only chance we have to see any form of OUTDOOR pro soccer is if the St. Louis Lions....or "Celtic" now...jumps to USL Pro. Tony Glavin's team has formed a partnership with the European club Celtic. So his won't be called the Lions anymore....It'll be something like Celtic St. Louis....or St. Louis Celtic FC.

    However, I'm not sure how "AWESOME" that'll be. It's a lower lever of play than the NASL.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see the Steamers return next year at the Scottrade Center. That indeed would be AWESOME!!
     
  20. dccoulthard

    dccoulthard New Member

    Sep 6, 2009
    Valier, IL
    Club:
    Toulouse FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Steve, you have to realize that the NASL wasn't going to accept an owner that had the slightest relationship with Cooper. Also, Woods' act of "oh, the money is coming" just made the NASL office see another Cooper. The second that Woods pulled his first "oh, I don't have the money now, but it is coming" act, the team was doomed.

    And as far as the reporting on this, almost all of it was wrong (accept for us, I might add). I knew once the Athletica folded that AC wasn't far behind.

    See, if Jeff Cooper and Tony Hubert told the "pro-AC isn't folding" websites to jump, most of their writers would say "how high and can I set myself on fire while doing it." It was amazing the blindness that went into those pro-AC people.

    Yes, I understand that people had sources, but sources inside the team are ALWAYS going to say everything is alright. Do you think Jeffery Damher told his victims "yes, I am going to kill you"? Of course not.
     
  21. MUhooligan10

    MUhooligan10 New Member

    Nov 6, 2008
    Columbia, MO
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Don't you think it's time to let that go? Jesus, it's been nearly 6 months.
     
  22. demunb

    demunb Member

    Feb 23, 2007
    Crystal City, MO
    Club:
    St. Louis Lions
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're not condescending or full of yourself at all are you? I bet you're a hit at parties.
     
  24. dccoulthard

    dccoulthard New Member

    Sep 6, 2009
    Valier, IL
    Club:
    Toulouse FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    What the hell is that supposed to mean? Elaborate please.
     
  25. dccoulthard

    dccoulthard New Member

    Sep 6, 2009
    Valier, IL
    Club:
    Toulouse FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    MUhooligan10, it has nothing to do with "letting it go". You all said that what I reported was....if I can quote Nik correctly...."horse shit". Correct?

    I am just pointing out that we were correct on our reporting on this issue and that other websites were way off. I mean, I understand why you would want incorrect, as long as it makes you happy, instead of knowing the truth.

    So, during that whole time I said the team was folding, you said I was wrong. And now that the team has folded, you are getting defensive?

    Yeah, the truth is a bitch, isn't it?
     

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