It's official: Berhalter hired

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by bharreld, Nov 24, 2018.

  1. bharreld

    bharreld Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    Westlake, OH
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  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not thrilled
     
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  3. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
  4. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    No offense to the original poster, but I'm still not considering this full confirmation. I'm not ready to give up that little sliver of hope that things might go in a different direction.
     
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  6. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, in my opinion Berhalter is a reasonable choice. Again, in my opinion, there are currently no American coaches who are better than him. That said, I think that if we were going to wait one goddamn frickin' year [+] to name a coach who is not better than what we could have named last November then we completely shat this year away. Name Berhalter by last Christmas, I'm ok with it. Name a world class coach by this Christmas, I'm ok with it. But to have last year's hire be this year's hire is absolute horseshit.
     
  7. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    I think this is a really good hire. Hope it works out. A lot of other planets have to line up for his tenure to be successful.
     
  8. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Except this time last year, we were waiting for the USSF election, and there were different ideas floated but it seemed to make everyone happy to know that a position and process would be created to hire the coach. And then we had to figure out how that would all really work, and who could hire that person. And then that person had to be identified, and do their due diligence. All in a minefield of bad faith and pretty ferocious second guessing.

    Here's to better days.
     
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  9. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    What were Earnie doing the last few months?
     
  10. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is going to be good. But more importantly:

    1. Thank god the wait is over
    2. Can we all wipe the slate clean and root For him to succeed
     
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  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see this a lot and completely don’t get it. Sunil was leaving. It was completely unfeasible for him to make a hire on his way out the door!
     
  12. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I think expectations are so low that 90% of the fanbase will be flabbergasted when we qualify in the top two. Which is the typical.
     
  13. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously? the USSF could have easily made the Berhalter choice by the end of the MLS season that year. But even if they thought it judicious to hold off until the elections, then what about all the time since then? Do you seriously believe that it was necessary to bring Earnie Stewart to hem and haw for the better part of this year, only to bring in last year's guy?
    I like Berhalter, and I hope he does well in resurrecting our team, but this year has been squandered on Sarachan and nothing good has come from it. We start from scratch.
     
  14. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    This hire would have been...fine, had it happened 12 months ago and we not completely pissed away a year.

    As it is, he’s not got a fan base that’s disillusioned at best or more indifferent at worst, with seriously issues to work out in the attack.
     
  15. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    My guess is that Berhalter without Higuaín will be like Arena without Donovan.

    Berhalter really should have taken the Galaxy gig.
     
  16. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, you can tell a reasonable story why the USSF moved slowly at each particularly juncture.

    "Well, we need to wait until the election of the new president."
    "Well, we need to let the new president salvage the 2026 bid before figuring out who should be GM."
    "Well, we need to let the GM wrap things up with his club before starting with us."
    "Well, we need to let the GM talk to former players and develop a list of attributes we'd ideally want in to coach and develop a list of candidates."
    "Well, we need to give the GM time to thoroughly interview all the top candidates."

    But taken as a whole, it just comes off as extremely incompetent and inefficient, especially when the outcome of the process is to hire the guy whom most people had pegged as the leading candidate a year ago.
     
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  17. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. USSF couldn't show their lack of ambition any more clearly than this hire, if it is indeed Beerholder.
     
  18. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    What are the 3 most likely explanations for why the process took this long?
     
  19. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Gulalati correctly did not want to appoint a coach as he was leaving and waited for the election of the new leadership
    2. Once the election was done, they hired a new technical director first
    3. The likely candidates were in MLS and they were going to wait until the season was over.

    1 & 2 we’re fine by me
    3, less so. They could have hired him and announced it a couple months ago, contingent on the seasons ending.
     
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  20. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    If this is true, it's mediocrity at its finest.

    Who gives a shit about what the fans think, but what do the players truly feel about this hire?

    This team is not going to lead by guys like Trapp, Acosta, and Nagbe. Its core will be Pulisic, McKennie, Sargent, Miazga, Horvath, etc. What do these guys really feel behind closed doors.

    Are they going to respect the guy coming in to lead them? Are they going to be learning anything from him? Is he even at the level of their club coaches?
     
  21. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to root for him to succeed because I want the team to succeed. I always root for our coach to do well, from Bradley to Sarachan.

    But I'm not going to forget the shitty and incompetent way this was handled. I'm not going to forget the inconsistent criteria, the incoherent "vision", nor the... convenience... of hiring a candidate that will not change or challenge anything about USSF whatsoever.

    And I'm damn sure not going to forgive Stewart and Cordiero for this year's worth of purgatory that they have put the fans through after the hell that was Couva.
     
  22. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I quibble a little bit on the "there are no better American coaches" bit, but like all of us, I think I broadly agree on the general point. (Is there anyone here who actually pointedly disagrees and believes that this worked out well for us? Bueller? Bueller?) Our fed basically managed to misplace 2018 under the seat cushions is the long and short of it.
     
  23. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clean slate, arguably best American coach fir the job, I’ll go into it with optimism. We needed a clean slate. ( disclaimer: That optimism will plummet drastically if trapp is considered a key cog in the machine )
     
  24. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Berhalter was hired months ago. Garber did not want anything to scare off potential investors in Columbus, and required the announcement be delayed.
     
  25. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, I think you hit the nail on the head. Professional courtesy for Columbus. It makes the delay at least justifiable to a degree , good call
     
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