Because 1 Spanish team was knocked out of the Champions League group stage,that should be far more damaging than 3 not winning their group. Valencia get zero punishment and can rack up as many points in the Europa League. There are twice as many English teams as Spanish left yet Spain is still ahead. This is ridiculous. UEFA need to fix their sytem according to teams being knocked out. Valencia, Atletico and Madrid being knocked out should damage Spain right now. England should already be ahead before a ball is kicked in the 1/4 finals.
Just going by this year alone the system is completely Broken. How can England have 6 teams left and Spain 3, yet Spain be ahead on this years points. Just because Burnley didn't qualify? Yet zero points deducted for Valencia being knocked out of the Champions League because of the Europa League. I also think any team getting to a final or winning should get way way more points than it does.
I just told you how. That's not true. Teams that advance in CL get a bunch of bonus points (plus more points due to having a better W/D/L record during the group-stage). Teams that fail to advance do not.
This entire thread is literally about Co-efficients! If you can't discuss/critique/argue about it here then what's the point of this thread? If I just want the factual information I can go to UEFA's website.
I am pointing out how poor this system is and asking the question rhetorically. How can this be possible logically. If I ran a school and only 300 of my students pass compared to 600 at another school, I would be investigated, regardless of many in my school got high marks. At no point should a country with double the number of teams left of another federation have less points in any viable system. It's broken, Case closed.
It's not broken. With the number of BPL teams remaining you SHOULD be able to surpass La Liga now. Just be patient. It has to be earned.
Schalke is 14th in the Bundesliga averaging 0.92 points per game. If Bayern played the 14th place Premier League club, Bayern could have won by a lot. Schalke was in the category of happy to reach the Round of 16 and not disappointed if they didn't go farther, kind of like Leicester two season ago, although Leicester did better by advancing over Schalke and losing the Quarterfinal aggregate against Atletico 2-1. Good post. You explain things without criticizing people for not knowing them. The coefficients have gone higher than what thepremierleague posted. England is up .857 (6/7ths) to 17.214, and Spain is up .715 (5/7ths) to 17.857. England's problem is that Burnley got 3.5, and Spain's worst was 10.0 from Real Betis. It's like comparing two groups of students where one group (Spain) had the lowest grade fail with a 60 and the other group (England) had the lowest grade be a 0 for cheating. The six best students in each group have to be far apart to make up for the bottom one. In every comparison other than 7th, England is at least as high as Spain: 1st: Barcelona 23.0, Manchester City 23.0, 0 difference 2nd: Atletico Madrid 20.0, Tottenham 20.0, 0 difference 3rd: Real Madrid 19.0, Chelsea 20.0, England +1.0 4th: Sevilla 19.0, Liverpool 19.0, 0 difference 5th: Valencia 18.0, Manchester United 19.0, England +1.0 6th: Villarreal 16.0, Arsenal 16.0, 0 difference 7th: Real Betis 10.0, Burnley 3.5, Spain +6.5 Total: Spain 125.0, England 120.5, Spain +4.5, divide all of those by 7 to get the coefficients. Tottenham and Liverpool will both win their comparisons unless they get eliminated with 2 losses because they're paired with eliminated Spanish clubs. Valencia and Villarreal play each other.
Ajax alone has been responsible for Holland getting 6 coefficient points this season! NED's coefficient is 8.2 but would be 2.2 without Ajax. Here are the practical differences that Ajax' run has had: - Holland is ranked 11th in the coefficient standings, compared to 14th where they started the season or 17th if Ajax had gone out in CL & EL qualifying this season ; - They will have 2 teams in the 2020-21 CL and probably many years beyond, when they were at some risk of having just 1 - The champions will enter in the playoff round of 2020-21 CL qualifying instead of two rounds earlier. .
Honestly Ajax could lift the UCL, and it would be amazing to see. However, I'm not quite sure if they can handle Barcelona or not. Barca might be too much for them, but we'll see.
Yea, it feels like any of the four could realistically take it. Haven't looked forward to a semi-final and final like this since Real's 10th
They could face Liverpool. I honestly don't believe that Tottenham will take it, but the other 3 really could.
And just like that Italy starts the next campaign outside of the top three spots. 3. Germany 55.784 4. Italia 55.725
Terrible for Italy. Better luck next year hopefully. We've been really unlucky with teams out of form at the most crucial times this year. Hopefully we get better luck next season.
Excluding Vaduz, who was the only club from Liechtenstein, Ajax ranks fourth in terms of what percent of its country's points they have according to https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/ccoef2019.html Malmo FF: 78.8% of Sweden's points Dinamo Zagreb: 78.3% of Croatia's points Sheriff Tiraspol: 77.8% of Moldova's points Ajax: 73.2% of Netherlands' points Among the countries in the top 10 for this season, the highest percentage other than Ajax is 42.6% for Celtic.
See, this is why the UEFA coefficient is a solid ranking system. England is now #1 for this season. They inevitably moved to the top because they had more teams reach the quarterfinals in the two European competitions, just like I told you they would. Of course England would be further ahead if their teams got better results in the CL semis.
The coefficients don't claim at any point that the ranks will be close to the final rankings. The top clubs in a domestic league will do about the same in their last 20 percent of their games, and possibly worse if they rest players because they clinched the title, or have CL, EL, or cup games they prioritize. Everyone knows or should know that the last 20 percent of the coefficient points will almost entirely go to the top countries.
Finally England is top of this years ranking. Even more if Arsenal and Chelsea also get to the final of the Europa League. England Points 147.500 Average 21.071 Spain Points 137.000 Average 19.571