Italy v Germany v England in UEFA Coefficient Rankings(R)

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  1. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    Atleti weren't very good, but you have to give Juve so much credit in that game. They physically dominated one of the most physically imposing sides in Europe. When Napoli were at their best, Juve battered them 3-1 in Turin with the same run of overpowering play. It shows how good Juve can be when they turn up.
     
  2. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    Bayern have slowly been losing quality and are in need of a rejuvenation. This version of them isn't even close to Pep's team and certainly not their prime 2011-2015 squads. Lewandowski is Aguero/Higuaín/Benzema level. He is a very good volume scorer but rarely shows up against the elite defenses. Obviously that's hard to do, yet that is what Bayern needed of him. Plus for as good as Coman and Gnabry may become, a team at the level of Bayern shouldn't be relying on them. Can't understand why they let Douglas Costa go to Juve.
     
  3. mfw13

    mfw13 Member

    Jul 19, 2003
    Seattle
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC

    Germany, in general, is in need of rejuvenation. Bayern/Dortmund/Schalke were outscored a collective 17-3 by Liverpool/Spurs/Man. City.

    And Germany finished last in its group in the UEFA Nations League after failing to advance to the knockout rounds at WC 2018.

    Biggest issue is a lack of talent development....not a single German player finished in the FIFA top ten for 2018 player of the year.
     
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  4. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    Of the teams remaining:

    Best defenses:
    Liverpool- .56 allowed per match
    Juventus- .63 per
    City - .7 per
    Tottenham - .83 per
    Barca - .96 per
    Ajax -
    United - 1.33
    Porto

    Attacks:
    City - 2.63
    Barca - 2.55 per
    Liverpool - 2.26 per
    Juventus 2.19 per
    Tottenham - 1.9 per
    Ajax
    United - 1.9 per
    Porto

    GOATS :laugh::
    Barca - 1
    Juve - 1

    Juve, City, and Barca also have the most depth to sustain them until the end of the season. This is probably the one area along with the non-GOAT factor that Liverpool lack a bit of. Still, those seem to be the best four teams in Europe this season.
     
  5. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    Bayern are a financial powerhouse yet they just haven't aggressively invested in their squad enough to keep up with the rest of the European elite. Do you know why that is?

    I understand that youth development is important, but the very big teams largely depend on buying players every year to improve their squads. Bayern haven't really done that. Coman may have great talent, but there is a reason why PSG and Juve passed on him. He isn't good enough yet to start for a team like Bayern in these matches. Neither is Gnabry. Bayern's defense and midfield weren't really the issue. The attack just offered very little threat against Liverpool's very very good defense.
     
  6. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    May 23, 2018
    I honestly don't think that Liverpool's defense is that great. Van Dijk is the only great defender. The rest are mediocre at best. However Coman and Gnabry are also mediocre at best, and Ribery is old and a shadow of what he was back in 2008-2013.
     
  7. LorneMarvello

    LorneMarvello Member+

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I honestly believe you are azzurri and will be reporting you

    Stay band kid
     
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  8. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    I already have
     
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  9. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    May 23, 2018
    I am not IAF. He was banned ages ago, wasn't he?
     
  10. toronto_soccer

    toronto_soccer Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Such bitter people in this thread. Can you just stick to the topic and not run to the mods like a bunch of whiners.
     
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  11. soccerr9

    soccerr9 Member+

    Jun 6, 2005
    Van Dijk is Chiellini, Godin, Ramos, etc level. Absolutely monstrous. The outside backs are also very good. Robertson is fantastic while Arnold is great in attack. Their only possible defensive weaknesses are their 2nd CB & depth. Robertson can also be vulnerable at times (very similar to Cancelo).

    Juve & Liverpool are without question the two best defenses left. Can't disrespect them.
     
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  12. toronto_soccer

    toronto_soccer Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Inter are out. They could have knocked out the last German team in Europe. The good news for Serie A fans is that as of right now Italy retains 3rd spot next year. But only by a very slight margin.

    3. Italia - 55.440

    4. Germany - 54.927
     
  13. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    Does it even matter anymore?
     
  14. toronto_soccer

    toronto_soccer Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well no. But top 3 is something.
     
  15. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    Does anybody really believe the Bundesliga is better than the Serie A? I mean for me the top 3 leagues (Spanish, Italian and English) are miles ahead of the German League.
     
  16. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    2018/2019 UEFA Coefficients
    England 16.357
    Spain 17.142

    Can anyone explain how the hell Spain has more points this season? Feels like Spain
    just have to turn up and they get points lol

    6 English teams in the 1/4 finals 3 Spanish. Ridiculous.
     
  17. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    I'm pretty sure it's because of how well they did in the group stage but I'm not positive
     
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  18. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England

    Hopefully the current second round points are delayed otherwise this is outrageous.

    Only Barcelona left in the CL and they have more points, insanity.


    UEFA WEBSITE: Clubs that reach the round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals or final of the UEFA Champions League, or the quarter-finals, semi-finals or final of the UEFA Europa League, are awarded an extra point for each round.

    Really UEFA?
     
  19. Insigne4BalonD'or

    SSC Napoli
    Italy
    Apr 6, 2017
    In Hiding with Sal's mom
    I personally believe the system is flawed and that it should be changed to the previous 3 seasons. What happened 4 or 5 years ago is so far in the past and doesn't have anything to do with where the current teams are at in terms of quality.

    To put it in perspective. 5 years ago, Juventus was dumped into the EL in a group containing Real Madrid, Galatassaray and Copenhagen. Milan were in the R16 with Rami, Essien, Kaka, DeJong and Balotelli.

    4 years ago, Juventus made their first final being led by a midfield trio of Vidal, Pirlo and Pogba with Tevez leading the attack.
     
  20. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    May 23, 2018
    God's Will!!!!! He is not British and will not let England receive too many coefficient points.
     
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  21. LorneMarvello

    LorneMarvello Member+

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    good man
     
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  22. LorneMarvello

    LorneMarvello Member+

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    yeah what ever, we know who you are
     
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  23. LorneMarvello

    LorneMarvello Member+

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    lol hey bro if these forums were un moderated I would dominate, I am pure scum when I get going lol
     
  24. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member

    Juventus
    Italy
    May 23, 2018
    If I am IAF, how do you know I didn't ask the mods to ban the IAF account? If you remember both accounts were active at the end of IAF and beginning of MeanMachine. I could of just told the mods that I wanted to restart again with a new account.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    The short answer is: Because the season is not over yet.

    Long answer: even though Spain lost a team in the CL group-stage, the others dominated their group while the EPL teams mostly finished runners-up. In the EL, all 3 Spanish sides won their group while one English side were eliminated early.

    The fact that now England has more teams remaining is going to help their coefficient over the next 2 months, and they will easily pass Spain who has fewer teams left. But up until these past 2 weeks there were as many teams from Spain left in Europe as from England, so why would you expect England to have a much higher coefficient?
     
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