Italian Soccer & All purpose picture thread...

Discussion in 'Italy' started by falvo, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
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    L'oro verde di #Calabria Quanto vi piacciono?

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    Melanzane ripiene made in #Calabria. Chi non condivide non è un vero calabrese.

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  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  3. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Oggi a Roma, via Appia Antica in bicicletta è meravigliosa!


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  4. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  5. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  6. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Ever hear Friuliani? Calabrese is very different as well.
     
  7. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Try this one ....

     
  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    These are funny too......



     
  9. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    #1434 Gilbertsson, Jun 15, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2018
    Friuliani is easier for me than Sicilia or Campania. Basically, all northern Italian dialects are easier to me. Campania (Napoli) area is also difficult.
    Similar thing is in Croatia. Northern Croats and Southern Croats are not the same at all. Southern people are taller, darker, northern people are shorter, lighter, real Slavic people. Different dialects, three main dialects. Northern Croatian is very complicated for me. But Southern Croatianis much more closer to the standard Croatian. In southern parts, Latin language was used until 18th century. And Northern people don't follow the real standard language. In my opinion, Balkan Peninsula, especially ex-Yugoslavia have to many languages, that don't have real differences among themselves. Croats are ikavians, ijekavians, ekavians, Serbs are only ekavians, Montenegrins are ijekavians, Bosnia-Herzegovina are ijekavians and ikavians. Only Croatia has three dialects: Stokavian, Cakavian, Kajkavian...others Serbs, Montenegrins, Bosnia and Herzegovina have only Stokavian. Slovenes are all Kajkavian, different than others, same as Macedonians, who are actually Bulgarians, that's why Greeks pressure them to changed their name.
    Bosnian and Montenegrin language are not needy at all, newer types of created languages.
    Luckily, Italians are mostly Roman Catholics, you would see how you could get a long with three main religions.:D Although, Byzantine Empire ended in Italy also, cathedral in Venezia is Byzantine. If all Balkan nations could be either all as Roman Catholics, Orthodox Christians, or Muslims, it would be good. But the problem is that Croats are Catholics, Serbs are Orthodox. Montenegrins are Catholics (Croats), Orthodox (Serbs and Montenegrins, who were Serbs earlier), Macedonians are Orthodox, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Catholics are Croats, Orthodox are Serbs and only Muslims consider Bosnia and Herzegovina as the state, ethnic group. On the other side, there are no real Muslim Croats or Orthodox Christians, same as Serbs Catholics. Coastal Montenegro was mostly Catholic before (Italians, Croats).

    Catania is easier for me than other southern Italian dialects.
    Rome is ok, understandable.
    Firenza slightly heavier than Rome?? Mushemi??
    Milan very easy.
    Napolitani use the sound SH often? Too temperament people in many ways, they create dramatic moments about anything: clouds, grass, food, football.
    Maybe these differences came because of different approach in education. Milan has famous old library, Biblioteca Ambrosiana. Firenza and Rome were always subjects of enlightenment.
    It's hard to prove how other ethnic groups shaped Italian language in southern Italy.
    Northern Italy also had foreign elements: Goths, Etruscan civilization, French in west, German in Tirol, Slavic variations in Venezia, Trieste.

    Robert de Niro mentioned something interesting.
    Blood Sicilian, Albanian, Italian. For someone from USA, he understands ethnic groups in Southern Italy. He forgot to mention Greeks.


    Albanians like to invent a lot of things, but there are Arberesh communities in Italy.

    In Molise also Croats live, probably more southern Italy, than northern.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molise_Croats
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croats_of_Italy

    Even though I don't understand Sicilian, dialect of Campania, these regions seem more mysterious, interesting to learn about them. Because of several personal regions, northern Italy is closer to me, my family members.

    Pompeii seem interesting to me.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompeii

    Also, Malta seems interesting to me. Lets not forget, a lot of surnames have perfect Italian sound. With Arabic, Semitic, Greek origins.

    https://www.um.edu.mt/library/oar/bitstream/handle/123456789/8511/Late Medieval Maltese.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

    https://www.timesofmalta.com/articl...st-Maltese-share-the-same-100-surnames.506018
    Italian-Maltese surnames:
    Azzopardi, Baldacchino, Portelli, Brincat, Bonnici, Cachia, Cardona, Cilia, Dalli, Darmanin, Debono, Formosa, Gatt, Galea, Grima, Aquilina, Mallia, Pace, Falzon and Vella.

    Things changed a lot...


    Syracuse, Rome, Etruscans most famous elements on peninsula at that time.
     
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  10. Rosay

    Rosay Member+

    May 7, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    that video with Europe changing over time was wild
     
  11. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    There are more videos with similar theme on Youtube. Hoping it's correct and objective.
    Contemporary people (nations) usually give to the past the same feelings from today's era. Which is not correct at all. Etruscans are interesting people, progressive in that period and they weren't violent I think, like many other European groups from that time.
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Did your Mamma or Nonna have one?

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  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Mulberry Street, Little Italy NYC

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  14. Il Ciuccio

    Il Ciuccio Member+

    Feb 17, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    We had one that looked just like that.
     
  15. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Falvo, I think every granny, nonna had similar item. During that time, young women took all here valuable items and took them with in the new family after wedding ceremony. Legacy for children, grandchildren. The colour of this item depended about the region, family status.

    Ristorante Puglia and Ristorante Italiano seem very nice, authentic and stylish. Interesting, Puglia was established in 1919. Great depression survivor, WWII. Difficult periods and it still exists. I only wonder, can we see people who work there, with names Sal, Vinny, Joseph, Carmine.:D

    In Europe, many authentic Italian restaurants have workers from Asian countries, who have hard moments with Italian dish names.
    In Sydney, I went in one real Italian restaurant, Zia Pina. Pina literally meets every customer or visitor, which is not so usual that owner meets customers. For some reason, ATP tennis players adore to eat there, because of tournaments over there.
    Nepal or Bangladesh seem ok, but they don't understand Italian gastronomy so much.:D Maybe owners earn more, but they lose the charm if they don't have Italian workers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Italy,_Manhattan

    It says here, that Little Italy has mostly several Italian restaurants.

    So, ancestors of Italians here settled mostly in 19th century in USA? And you still keep the identity, which is nice.

    Empire State Building in the background of this image, I think. This person looks like typical Italian.:p Diesel jeans I assume. Maybe Armani Jeans.:whistling: Who knows, maybe it's Michael Imperioli.:D

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  16. Midfield General

    Jun 14, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ha ha La Mela. I've eaten there. Tourist trap.
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    A lot of younger/modern day Italians who manage to come over on a visa or undocumented work in the restaurants and bars. You figure if an Italian is making $30-40kk+ tips, he is making 5 more than most Italian engineers. He also gets a chance to live in NYC and out of his parents basement or attic in some small town in Italy. There are tons who c are living in all the Little Italy's across North America....
     
  18. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Yes, I agree about that. But, this is great, if they have relatives, family members in NYC or wider neighbourhood. Even basic apartments seem expensive for rent.
    Many US citizens don't even have private ownership, real estates, cars, they cut coupons for their groceries.
    Average salary in northern Italy is around 1500 euros, in southern Italy, it's lower.
    Many people in Italy work as workers in tourism, which is often very bad, long working periods. Many Italians live today in Long Island, Queens, family quarters.
    Life in Little Italy seems romantic, but it wasn't easy in earlier decades.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Americans_in_New_York_City

    Is Bronx nice quarter today? Harlem?

    Greenwich is excellent today.

    Things are much more nicer in Manhattan, Queens, Staten Island. Not so sure about Brooklyn.

    NYC is a great city. But it offers expensive tuitions also. In Europe, it's much more easier to avoid typical hard work with education, connections, people are still very much close to each other. USA has alienation, unless if you are well involved in paisano activities. Besides that, it's mostly house - work.

    The question is always about the higher class or upper middle class living in New York. Manhattan is great, but many people can't afford "goodies" over there. Many people don't have their own vehicle, apartment, house. In Australia, people visit Europe every few years, until they collect enough money, so that they visit relatives in the old countries.

    For example, working week in France lasts only 35 hours.:) If you are a lazy person, who embraces nice lifestyle and easy way of living, this is excellent. They can't disturb you with business calls, e-mails, during weekends.
    Many Italians live great in Austria, Germany, France, England. There is one great Italian restaurant in London. Real high end furniture, food products, nothing out of cans, long term freezing, organic products. Southern Europeans always knew how to live. During World Cups, EURO's, you can see a lot of people who invent illness, so that they avoid work.:D
     
  19. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Wow, literally the exact same one. I will take a picture of it soon. It's full of Nonno's old tools :)

    I'm interested in knowing, where is this from?
     
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  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I forget exactly but I got it online on Facebook on an I love Italy or Calabria page. When I saw it, I figured I’d post it as my parents still have it in their garage. I can’t remember if my dad brought it when he came over or if it was my mom when she immigrated to nyc with her family. My parents were both from Italy but met in California. I’ll try and find out the exact page.....
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I’m not sure how it is back east as I’m in California near San Francisco. I doubt it’s that much more expensive than it is out here as the rents and housing are out of this world in the SF Bay Area. Most of the Italians living in the little Italy or north beach neighborhood in SF don’t really live there. They usually live somewhere else with roommates or girlfriends trying to share the rents and commute. I’m sure it’s the same in nyc. My relatives in Yonkers tell me many Italians live in new jersey or outside of the city center where it’s less expensive and take a ferry boat or commute into Manhattan.
     
  22. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Sure, let me know when you do. The one now sitting in my garage looks exactly like that. I thought my Nonno found it when he worked as a longshoreman on the docks, which is likely the case. Maybe there was a big sale on trunks from some paesan street vendor when they all landed :)
     
  23. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    San Francisco is also great. Coastal parts of USA seem great. People in USA usually work 2 jobs, which is very unusual to see in Europe. In USA, there are so many occupations, which are not present in Europe, in some higher range. Example: dog walker, personal buyer...where you do something instead of another person. But people earn more with these jobs, than one teacher in Europe.
    From social aspect, it's interesting how people in USA don't have thoughts about private possessions, ownership. In some aspects, it reminds me on protestant ethics. On the other hand, people who have Roman Catholic tradition, we occupy our minds about personal apartment, garage, house, weekend house, cars or if it's possible to have all that somewhere on the coast, island.:D People like to own parts of woods, which are close to the national parks, nature parks.
    This is also visible in Switzerland. Calvinist Swiss people are very modest, modest housing interior, there are no food feasts every day, like in Catholic homes.
    Do you often visit Italy? Do you miss cities of your parents?

    Example of an sixth-generation Italian-Australian.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Dellavedova

    People of southern Europe, they never forget about their roots.
     
  24. Gilbertsson

    Gilbertsson Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Apr 1, 2012
    Geneva
    Club:
    Toronto Croatia
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  25. NickyViola

    NickyViola Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Boston
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    That's me. And I've eaten there.

    Nothing special, sadly.
     

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