Rumor: It just does not stop... - The Summer transfer thread

Didn't know who this was aimed at until I clicked show ignored posts.

That doesn't even crack the top 10 of dumb things he's said.

 

Typo, if true. My thesis has always been to play Pogba in a more advanced role, not to shield the back line. You don’t waste 89m on a midfielder who can do what Pogba does in attack. And you don’t use Pogba as a DM when you have Magic. Make adjustments late to seal wins, sure, but don’t waste Pogba to shield Jones.

But then again, you’re the guy who hilariously argues that Griezmann and Pogba can’t play together. You’re the guy who hilariously thought we were still in it for a top four finish last season when we were falling like a rock in midsession. You’re the guy who hilariously thought we were in trouble of dropping out of the top four this season after we opened up a 10 point lead on the fifth place club late in the season. Lucky for you things online forums exist where you can play internet hardman.

 

Um, you're the one who argued that Fred was a potential successor to Matic, which he isn't. That's hardly a typo.

I didn't say you can't play Pogba and Griezzman together. I said you have to sacrifice the best qualities of one for the other to properly shine to their full potential.

I never argued our top 4 place was in jeopardy. I argued Chelsea were still legitimate top 4 contenders, in spit of being 6 points off 4th. And there were, until the very last game of the season.

I also said we still had legitimate top 4 hopes the season before last in the first ********ing week of December. Even though we weren't in the top 4 at that moment in time. That's because we did. We drop out of that top 4 race until well into the 2018 calendar year.

 

Pogba had serious deficiencies in his game when he was at our academy, had the same issues when he was at Juve and is the same now.

Mkhi came from a system team in Bvb, buying from there is a bad decision in hindsight.

 

Agree with diable.

I have always advocated signing Fabinho but more for his versatility. He is not a proven quality 6.

 

Ribalta is the closest thing we will get to that, and he is clearly doing a good job.

We are back signing top academy prospects, and Dalot is exactly the kind of first team signing that got us our success in the 2006-11 era.

 

You want us to swap SMS and Pogba?

 

Why?

I think all the names being targeted are very reasonable.

 

Delaney is a total clown.

His only source was Moyes.

 

I hate what signing Willian entails but he is miles better than Gelson Martins. He is comfortably Chelsea's second best player.

 

Swap Verratti and Pogba, and get SMS.

Verratti, Fred, SMS is a midfield even Jose can't feck up.

 

I haven't posted here in months and you are still wasting time on him?

Also, have any of the older regulars returned / have we gotten any reasonable new blood here?

 

No.

 

Hold your horses, new blood has arrived! Hopefully you guys are done arguing like an old married couple so we can actually talk footy

 

In response to the midfield talk, you guys seriously think verratti and Fred together are good enough defensively, specifically physically? They both are tenacious tacklers, but super small. Also, both like to get involved in the buildup, and it seems to me that they either won't be disciplined enough, or have to limit themselves in that aspect to do the defensive job. I don't love matic, but he does the job decently enough for now.. Man I hope Fosu-Mensah turns out awesome.

 

In terms of targets, I think the one spot everyone can agree needs to be addressed is RW(F). I personally think Jose should've played Alexis there from the get-go. He could play the position in a similar way to Sterling at City, playing further forward and being more of a finisher. This way he would get goals/assists, hopefully keeping him happy enough to forget he wasn't playing in his favored position on the left. Also, Lukaku loves pulling out right so those 2 could interchange nicely. Since Jose seems unable to tell Alexis he needs to this, who would you guys get in that spot?

 

Who are you?

 

I'm the new guy trying to inject some fresh blood in here..? Are you the bouncer? What would you like to know?

 

Ignore him. He's the former new guy.


Welcome.

 

It was just a musical reference.....no worries. Welcome aboard..

 

Seems about right, and I agree Leon Bailey looks an excellent buy from his youtube vids, probably what I'd do too at this point. I also like Ryan Sessegnon, though I think he's committed to Fulham next season. Kluivert, while promising, also plays on the left, so that seemed logical only if martial left. Willian? He'd probably cost over 40M, seems like a waste of money to me. Not that he's no good, but imo united should focus on more youth, especially if you're gonna pay big bucks for a player..

 

You do touch on what I think is the big question, and possible problem at united, will Jose see the light again? He seems very jaded, and has long lost the sparkle in his eye. Additionally, when he arrived in the prem he tactically was forward thinking with the 4-2-3-1, which essentially killed the 4-4-2, but the game has evolved beyond that, but it seems Jose hasn't. In particular, he doesn't seem to have a plan to attack, and the tactics are too reactionary to the opponent.
That being said, what I felt he was always good at was building a winning team. Look at Real, he didn't win all the stuff they're winning now, but he did set the stage by showing Barca wasn't invincible, get Varane and Modric among others. But at Chelsea round 2, we can see his desire to win right now cost Chelsea their long term plan. (Which was a genius plan btw: buy all the best youth everywhere, sell the second tier for profit and incorporate the best in the first team). As we all know with hindsight, allowing Jose to do that was really dumb, and def not worth the title he won them. I hope united don't make the same mistake chasing a title, allowing the team to become too old. I mean, rumors of chasing Mandzukic/Arnautovic as a back up?? What happened to Martial and Rashford?