It aint getting any easier

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Nutmeg, Oct 13, 2002.

  1. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Scolari took over the team in June of 2001. Beside winning the world cup Scolari has won the Libertadores Cup with both Gremio and Palmeiras in Brazil.
     
  2. Tejas

    Tejas Member+

    Jun 3, 2000
    Tejas
    I think this quote has to be repeated. Nuff said.

    Good work Cbr.
     
  3. Chowderhead

    Chowderhead Member

    Aug 3, 1999
    Central Falls, RI
    First of all, with Scolari or not, Mexico couldn't beat us in Chapultepec Park or on the steps of Chichen Itza.

    Secondly, I think you have a better chance of finding me rocking someone's van with Jennifer Capriati in the Foxboro parking lot next Sunday than you do of seeing Sampson live out his contract.

    So big Phil might have Mexico play tough with us, huh? Bring it.
     
  4. Live to Burn

    Live to Burn New Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    texas or NY
    honduras is also gonna be a monster.......
    they hired some dude,uh.......freddy adu..???

    yeh, that's his name....anyone ever here of him?
     
  5. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah freddy said he was gonna bring in some new blood for Honduras, 13 year olds playing in the streets of Tegucigalpa
     
  6. Merengue

    Merengue New Member

    Nov 4, 1999
    San Diego
    Very true but Scolari likely won't be coaching Mexico. Instaed they'll likely be coached by Carlos Bianchi. A man who has won 3 Copa Libertadores and at least one Intercontinental Cup and is known as one of the top tacticians in the world. Bianchi coaching Mexico is a scary proposition in my view for any US fan.


    While the conventional wisdom is the US will be improved this upcoming round of qualifying from the team which completed qualifying for 2002, let it be known the US' regional rivals are not standing still either.
     
  7. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Not only coaching but also the FA had a lot to do with how the team underperformed. Marquez at that time was just becoming our top defender. Claudio Suarez was still the man. what hurt us here was that once Marquez showed he could take his spot he got injured. This was only one of the injuries that would later plague the Mexican National Team. Ramon Ramirez easily our best midfielder would get injured in a car accident. Then we would lose Blanco in a qualification game when ElCock took out his knee. This left us with Luis Hernandez who was burned out from playing in MLS/MFL and Mexican National team. He even played many games injured.


    One of the reasons that Mexico became so dependant in those players (Blanco, Ramirez and Luis Hernandez) was because Lapuente never replced them. When he was repleced by Meza, he too failed to find the substitues for these key players. It was not untill Aguirre came in that he managed to adjust the team. In this process Mexico lost many players from France 98 that could have improved the team. there were also many young players that got left out because of the bad management of the youth squads.
     
  8. ncguy

    ncguy New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    NC
    Carlos Bianchi

    They have announced that indeed Bianchi will be the new coach.
     
  9. WHOLMAN2

    WHOLMAN2 New Member

    Dec 4, 2000
    Lahs Angeleez
    Re: Carlos Bianchi

    Good luck, Carlos. You'll need it. :)
     
  10. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Thanks for chiming in, VS. As a Mexico fan, you're certainly better informed than I am.

    How much credit do you give Aguirre for "finding" replacements? Obviously, Blanco came back, so Aguirre had nothing to do with that one. I suppose that he gets some credit for Borgetti and Torrado, although these two were initially brought in by Meza. Do you see guys like Ramon Morales or Johan Rodriguez as major upgrades?
     
  11. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Re: Re: It aint getting any easier


    Most of the players in the Mexican National Team had at one point or another been called up. Aguirres credit was fielding a squad that played well together. Meza for example had been using Borgetti from the start yet in the first HEX game he benched him for Luis Hernandez. Meza even had doubts over Torrado and never gave him continuation. Aguirre was able to form a core of players that carried the team to the Worl Cup, even though Blanco gets much of the credit for scoring the important goals in the game against Jamaica.


    The players that Aguirre brought in were not upgrades to the National team but they functioned well under his tactics. The fact that Aguirre had faith in certain players (Torrado, Garcia and Perez) and was not afraid to leave out the Stars of the old team like Luis Hernandez and Pavel Pardo is was brought back the teams confidence.

    The new coach will have a difficult task ahead of him as he must find replacemnts for many players. The Mexican National team can no longer depend on Blanco, it wont have Garcia Aspe or Claudio Suarez and there are many players that failed to take that next step like Osorno and Zepeda Whom would of been Mexicos equivalent of Mathis and Donovan..
     
  12. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    That is weired too. I remembered Mexico had a great U-20 team in 1999, and those young energies never matured to next level beside few exceptions like Marquez and Torrado.

    Do you think any new youngsters coming and up?
     
  13. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara

    The most promising youngsters are Marquez (Monaco), Brown (Cruz Azul) and Torrado (Sevilla). There is also Luis Perez (Necaxa), Adolfo Bautista (Morelia) and Iniguez (Morelia). Some new players that have been showing promise are Eziquiel Gonzalez (Toluca) Danilo Roman (Monterrey) Parejita Lopez (UNAM) El Gringo Castro (Club America) and Juan Carlos Cacho (Cruz Azul)


    Then there is a list of players that are still young enough and can have a second chance to show their worth like Eduardo Isella (Jaguares) Cesareo Victorino (Pachuca) and Jesus Ochoa (Osasuna)
     
  14. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Si le llaman El Gringo, seguro que juega bien :)
     
  15. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    I believe you meant Carlos Ochoa.
     

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