Isaác Brizuela at Atlas

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  1. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Looks like he made the final cut as did Miguel Ponce and Cirilo Saucedo.


    Moisés Muñoz (América)
    Cirilo Saucedo (Xolos)
    Jonathan Orozco (Monterrey)

    Darvin Chávez (Monterrey)
    Leobardo López (Monterrey)
    Miguel Layún (América)
    Adrían Aldrete (América)
    Miguel Ponce (Chivas)
    Efraín Velarde (Pumas)
    Israel Jiménez (Tigres)
    Hugo Ayala (Tigres)
    Jair Pereira (Cruz Azul)
    Joel Huiqui (Monarcas)

    Fernando Arce (Xolos)
    Jorge Enríquez (Chivas)
    Marco Fabián (Chivas)
    David Cabrera (Pumas)
    Carlos Peña (León)
    Isaac Brizuela (Atlas)

    Rafael Márquez Lugo (Chivas)
    Omar Bravo (Atlas)
    Javier Orozco (Cruz Azul)

    http://www.futbolpasion.mx/index.php?seccion=noticias&fp=0&idn=12853&u=1
     
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  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I forgot about Cirilo Saucedo... how many Mexican-Americans does that make at Tijuana?

    Herculez Gomez
    Joe Corona
    Edgar Castillo
    Greg Garza
    Alejandro Guido
    Stevie Rodriguez
    Paul Arriola
    Bruno Piceno
    Cirilo Saucedo

    They could almost field an all-American team... they could use some help at CB though, what's Orozco Fiscal's contract situation?
     
  3. Lukato

    Lukato Member+

    Sep 7, 2012
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Cirilo isn't mexican-american, he was born in Guanajuato.
     
  4. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saucedo's mother is a citizen. For her to pass citizenship down to him she would have to have meet certain residency requirements before he was born. I do not believe that has ever been confirmed for sure if he can get citizenship, but since it has not been ruled out he has been tracked on this forum as an American.

    US Soccer was in touch with him last summer. That article quotes him saying that he is not a citizen and it would take 5 years for him to become one. My understanding of US citizenship is that he either would be a citizen now or could not become one, although there some rules on registering his birth with the United States before he is 18 that I do not really understand as my US citizenship law knowledge comes mostly from these boards.
     
  5. drunkguy10

    drunkguy10 El Sancho

    Dec 26, 2006
    No idea
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    No. Any child of an American, it's an American by birth.
     
  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wrong

    Go ask Danny Potts
     
  7. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep

    Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

    A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be genetically related to the child to transmit U.S. citizenship.
     
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  8. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correct. I criticized that article when it came out because you are either a citizen or not. The "wait 5 year" thing didn't make sense.

    There really isn't a requirement to register by 18 to be a US citizen. If you qualify and your parents present evidence to the US consulate by age 18, you get a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen (CRBA). If you wait until *after* age 18, you can't get a CRBA, but you still get a US passport. You don't lose any rights by applying after age 18.

    The only time age 18 comes into account is if you use the "substitution rule" where your parent is a US citizen, but didn't meet the residency rule to pass along citizenship. You can substitute your grandparent(s) eligibility if they meet the residency rule, but you have to complete the process before age 18.
     
  9. drunkguy10

    drunkguy10 El Sancho

    Dec 26, 2006
    No idea
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    thanks for the correction.
     
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. KickballWizard

    Jun 11, 2013
    He still has to actually play in a Gold Cup game before he's a complete goner.
     
  12. Solid444

    Solid444 Member+

    Jun 21, 2003

    Cant he still switch once even if he played with another national team? (like castillo)
     
  13. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Not if he plays even a single minute in the Gold Cup, which I assume he will.
     
  14. Solid444

    Solid444 Member+

    Jun 21, 2003

    But Castillo played an official World Cup qualifier with Sven, and he was able to switch.
     
  15. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    That's not possible, he would have been cap-tied to Mexico then. He only played in friendlies with Mexico.
     
  16. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
    No, he didn't. He was called up, but he "lost his passport" and didn't play.

    His Mexico appearances:
    August 2007 friendly v. Colombia
    November 2008 friendly vs. Ecuador
    January 2009 friendly vs. Sweden

    He was called up for Honduras/Costa Rica in March/April 2009 but couldn't travel due to his missing passport. He then switched a few months later and played for the US after clearance from FIFA in November 2009.
     
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  17. Solid444

    Solid444 Member+

    Jun 21, 2003

    I stand corrected, thanks.
     
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  18. Chance

    Chance Member+

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just came on for Mexico (thus cap-tying him)... we didn't need you anyway Isaac!
     
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  19. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yup.

    Brian Sciaretta@BrianSciaretta53m
    American-born midfield Isaác Brizuela from Atlas is now cap-tied to Mexico coming on as a sub in the Gold Cup. Mexico trail Panama 2-1 77th

    He just used us to get the call up anyway. Probably had no intention of ever playing for the US.
     
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  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    He had a heck of an opportunity to make a huge difference in last night's match against Panama, but their goalie made a terrific play (one of several he pulled off) and it was not to be...

    My guess is at least half of this Mexico squad never plays a meaningful match for El Tri after the third-place game (if there is one)... Brizuela is young, so we'll see.
     
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  21. Fire Bradley

    Fire Bradley Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    I wish him the best of luck, he had to pick the country with less talent so he would have a better chance of eventually breaking into the first team :p
     
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  22. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    I thought he looked pretty good.
     
  23. jakepc42

    jakepc42 Member+

    Mar 26, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope he enjoys watching us win the final
     
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  24. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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