Is Detroit about to get a USL Pro team?

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by Alistair Fannell, Sep 6, 2013.

  1. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
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    Sporting Kansas City
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    United States
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
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    United States
    So, more than two years after what was supposed to be a "big announce," there is still no USL Pro team in Detroit.

    And a month after it was "thought" the Bucks' owner, who apparently either doesn't have the desire or wherewithal to go pro, was looking at the NASL (which requires more of both), nothing there, either.

    Jesucristo, people.
     
  3. SoccerPrime

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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    By people are you referring to anyone who ever wanted to discuss Detriot USL potential expansion or was that a general "people" comment? Because this thread was quiet for a month before you just resurrected it.
     
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  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

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    please don't rattle the cage and get him started...
     
  5. ajbirch07

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    Jan 31, 2008
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    You get used to pro soccer teams never coming to fruition around these parts.
     
  6. ButlerBob

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    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
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    DC United
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    I think with the new effort to bring MLS to Detroit, that the folks from the Bucks will stop their efforts to bring in a USL franchise. I wonder if they might look to bring a team to some place like Grand Rapids? Where else outside of Detroit would be a good potential market?
     
  7. Sporting Real

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    Jun 29, 2011
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    United States
    Well I think you nailed it. Grand Rapids. They already had a 2015 average of 4,000+ a game
     
  8. Blando13

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    Dec 4, 2013
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    United States
    Nailed it except for no reason Duggan would want to do that in a place other than "his hometown" or that the Grand Rapids group would want outside help in the form of Duggan.
     
  9. msilverstein47

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  10. SoccerPrime

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  11. C-Rob

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    May 31, 2000
    A lot of conjecture. The Detroit MLS guys are sponsoring the DCFC friendly vs. Venezia this summer, and a magazine owned by one of them just did a profile on DCFC. That, combined with the acknowledged ongoing discussions between the two parties, is what led the the headline.

    Additionally, DCFC is talking with both NASL and USL about moving up, perhaps as soon as next year, but that is dependent on finding another, well-heeled owner.
     
  12. SoccerPrime

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    Apr 14, 2003
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    United States
    Would be truly epic if the MLS investors and the DCFC owners could come to some kind of solution. Something along the lines of the billionaires bankrolling it and letting DCFC run the show.
     
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  13. Sporting Real

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    United States
    Billionaires don't usually get that way by being stupid. Buying DCFC and then leaving them along to do their thing has always been the smart move
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
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    United States
    Very rare is the person who commits hundreds of millions of dollars in investment in a project and then plays hands-off, especially when it comes to owning a sports franchise.

    "Leaving them alone" would seem to be a long shot. Building on what they established with some oversight of actual big-picture, big-ticket items, would seem more reasonable.
     
  15. SoccerPrime

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    Umm yes. Agreed
     
  16. msilverstein47

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  17. msilverstein47

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  18. canammj

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    Aug 25, 2004
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    Hard to judge a situation from far away, but is the situation that the ownership of Detroit City would be interested in going up the USL3-USL2-USLP-MLS route, but the very involved fan base does not want this? And since beyond NPSL, NISA & NASL are obviously non-entities right now. SO it seems they are in a weird spot.
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    So with Lansing coming on board at USL-2 could Detroit City afford to come over as a USL-P team and both be under the umbrella of an MLS team? MLS team would maybe be an affiliate and only maybe loan some players, but beyond that, leave Detroit City to do their thing? The MLS team could partner with Lansing as well and pretty much cover the State of Michigan if you could somehow tie Grand Rapids into the equation, maybe as USL 1
     
  19. newtex

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    May 25, 2005
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    Houston Dynamo
    Detroit City has just joined the new NSPL "Pro" League along with the Cosmos, Miami FC, Chattanooga, and some others.

    http://www.npsl.com/news/9317


    Based on the dates of this Founders Cup later in 2019 and the full league starting in 2020 I would guess that Detroit City and the other teams will compete in the regular NPSL in 2019.
     
  20. hipityhop

    hipityhop Member

    New Mexico United
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    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
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    SønderjyskE
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    United States
    What a waste for them. That's a no where to go move.
     
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  21. kenntomasch

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    Sep 2, 1999
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
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    United States
    Well....

    They've clearly outgrown the NPSL.

    Their hipster fan base can't cotton the idea of being part of the establishment, so the only real option is to join a different league. If the NASL still existed, maybe (though it's still a reach). But joining forces with the other honked-off organizations and some vaporware teams seems like a logical step.

    I mean, if you accept the premise that other options weren't options.
     
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  22. canammj

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    United States
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    Too bad they wouldn't have considered the 'new" USL 3rd division- a longer season, a step up to 'pro", some new rivals nearby - Lansing , TFC2, maybe Madison. But they feel USL is too tied to MLS, so thats a no go?
     
  23. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

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    Out West
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently. That's an upside for some, a downside for others.

    With USL franchise fees reportedly $5M, that would probably be a consideration, too.
     
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  24. hipityhop

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    New Mexico United
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    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
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    SønderjyskE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Is it 5 million for a Division 3 team to join USL ??
     
  25. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
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    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The D3 fee is probably way less, you're right.
     
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