International Transfer Rumors [R]

maybe bravo will do good en la tercera division de la liga espanola..

pero quien sabe... maybe he will miss the tacos de carne asada...

 

yes cherry picker and caza gol are the same thing.

come on people.

who cares if he sticks out or not.

if he's gone he's gone.

and as far as him closing doors, gio , vela, rafa, salcido, osorio, pardo, and hopefully guardado and maybe even nery are changing that.

 

No reason to get angry. I find it amazing how easy it is for people on here to lose their cool, especially over stupid crap. Show some maturity. Now, Im just sayin that the “supremacy” that FMF clubs had over the MLS once upon a time is disappearing, and partly due to the reasons I have mentioned. Lets take the nationalism glasses off and realize that the blowouts of yesterday no longer happen, the games between both leagues are competitive. Why is that? Although the gap isn’t closed like some spazzos say, Im worried about the MLS’s future potential through its investors/managers/owners/etc. These were the guys that brought over Beckham and Blanco cuz they knew it was in the best interests of the league. It’s a chain reaction driven by money and business. Money buys good players and coaches and that’s how clubs and leagues get better. MLS took a gamble on Beckham, they saw it as a long term investment not just to make soccer popular, but to more importantly help the quality of the league. In a few years it may be possible to see higher caliber coaches and players in the MLS for this reason. My comparison with the NFL, NBA, etc is that it shouldn’t be a surprise that several “unknown” American players are abroad given the athlete/agent exposure this country has. I don’t see the same experience and results on the Mexican side - soccer is the country’s main sport and theyre lackin in that agent/marketing/exporting field. That’s an area that could definitely develop and help to get some younger, unknown players abroad. That’s all man, no reason to get mad. My motto is simple: el que no ve adelante, atras se queda. With our narrow mindedness, stubbornness, nationalism its easy to not look outside the box and realize that despite our dislike for the MLS, theyre making progress because they’re lookin ahead, lookin for ways to get better and doing em.

 

nice, i totally agree.

 

How many mottos do you live by?...

I agree... somewhat. Sometimes for a lot of Mexicans, on occasion, pride overhelms reasoning. And thus is the reason why they get all bent out of shape when you say "Despierta, ¡no somos una potencia mundial!" See how NachoNation doesn't make a valid point as to why MLS players are cheap? It's pride taking over reasoning. Is he disregarding the importance of Marketing? Hmm, can you say "Beckham-mania"? Maybe he doesn't understand the business side of it. Or maybe he only cares not to give "spazzoids" hope that they can in fact overthrow us.

For the most part, many mexicans will never accept that the gap between the FMF and MLS is or was closing fast. But now (finally!), the world's eyes are on Mexican talent, and this will help not only to widen the gap between us and them a little further, but to having an actual/legit chance as world champs, which in fact is more important than this petty rivalry. It's sad that soccer is the only sport we dominate in Mexico but COULD still fall behind a country that doesn't really care for the sport.

I guess i'm a realist and see the bigger picture than most. I don't know...

 

Yeah...I don't buy it. As someone else said, the gap is decreasing but you paint a picture that I don't find to be true. Of course the MLS is improving, the league is over 10 years old now, they're bringing pretty good S. Americans and some slightly over the hill stars. I just think you seem to not recognize that our league is improving also. At the rate of the MLS, of course not, but look at where they started. You'll see that their improvement will start to plateau soon enough...just like all of them. Mexican footy I believe is as strong as it has ever been. More often we're reading of kids getting taken to Europe for big clubs. The entire Mexican league is full internationals from other countries. Now, even Argentina is calling up players from the Mexican league. Countries are now recognizing the quality of players that Mexico is producing and the strength of the league. I honestly think the people living here in the US are the only ones that refuse to accept it that.

You citicize Mexico's marketing but I think for the most part Mexico is improving on that as well. Teams are developing relationships with Euro clubs like Atlas/Deportivo. RM, Barca, and Milan have academies in Mexico that will hopefully allow a couple of prodigees to be noticed sooner. Talk about marketing, how does the fact that almost all of the Mexicans playing in Europe won their respective leagues sound?

It isn't being close minded just because we feel the FMF and its future is relatively healthy. You're quick to praise the MLS and its efforts but some of the things they;ve tried have been just gimicks. Wasn't there commercial breaks at one point, penalty shoot outs after every tie, and now the DP rule (which may or may not work). For all of their innovations why can't they just play a normal schedule as to avoid all the issues of playing other tournaments during their preseason, or schedulre important MLS matches the day after a FIFA date. Players like Becks, Donavon, and Bornstein will have to play two games in two days, including long travel just because the MLS couldn't look at a calender.

Just to clear things up...the MLS and the MFL will never be at the level of the EPL, La Liga, or Serie A. The fact the both leagues could never produce anything like the Champions League will forever prevent the leagues from reaching those kind of heights.

 

Since you see the big picture, why don't you acknowledge the fact that Mexico is improving in other sports too. Lorena Ochoa (number 1 golfer in the world, she's becoming instumental in encouraging kids to play golf), we still kick ass at boxing (last time I checked Mexico had the most champions). It may not be much but it still progress.

The US is also familiar with losing to other countires with respect to their most beloved sports. e.g. Basketball (Olympics, World Championships), Baseball World Championship.....shit happens.

 

Got me there! I completely forgot about Boxing, which in fact IS the sport we have dominated wordwide. Thanks for the reminder, I guess I was so into the soccer debate that I forgot about it. But really, though we are IMPROVING in other soprts, we are still way behind the US in other sports. Soccerwise, they are/were catching up, even though once upon a time they were way behind us. Which was my (and Carcacha's) point all along.

 

I'm all up for getting back on topic, but as long as Bravo is still being toy'd with a possible move to another country/league.. that completely constitutes (headline) International Transfer Rumors.

 

Interview with Bravo (possible transfer):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

 

Prick...

 

Bravo's not leaving, at least to Racing, they recently signed a guy from Borussia (I think Smolarek, very good player).

Neither is Ochoa, Racing also signed a goalie from San Lorenzo.

 

Now that belleti left for chelsea do u think this will open the door to osorio to barca? As was reported a couple weeks ago that he was on their list to replace him

 

Thank you captain obvious.

Don't talk to me about being blinded by nationalism pendejo. I'm one of the few here that doesn't go off on a tirade about how much the MLS sucks whenever we're going to play them. At one point I was, but I've toned it down considerably. I'm actually pretty reasonable.

You're an idiot because you constantly make the assumption that Mexico isn't doin shit to improve. I think you're a spazzo gone incognito.

One idiot fooled.

Yep, they're cheap because they have great marketers over there.

That's good for their clubs how? You're an idiot too.



I'm tired of reading all you nooberts wanting our players to whore themselves out for peanuts because it's Europe. Oooh! Europe. As if some of the clubs in the FMF haven't done a pretty good job of developing some pretty good players. Players you know, that are like on championship teams in Europe. After all that, they're supposed to let them go for practically free despite all the money they put into their development.

The fatalistic approach you guys take is just ridiculous. Our clubs and NT go toe to toe with pretty good company as it is. Yet somehow in your convoluted minds, Mexico will be on the verge of being a laughingstock soon.

STFU!

 

oye baboso, quien te crees que eres pendejo? si no te parece lo que yo digo pues entonces no leas, no me tienes que insultar. no seas naco, puedes opinar sin tener que ser tan animal.....me vale madre lo que tu digas, ya para que aqui muera la cosa

 

Unsubscribed... Ciao

 

No kidding, this used to be a good thread.

 

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