[International Friendly] Korea vs Northern Ireland 2018/03/24 [R]

Discussion in 'Korea' started by Seol Korea, Mar 23, 2018.

  1. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    At the end of the day, we could also say that if the offside situation (long ball by KMJ + SHM's 1vs1) was not disallowed, it could've turn out completely differently. As LYP and @Seol Korea said, it wasn't a foul by KSW.
     
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  2. killaorca

    killaorca Red Card

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    Legit I just want to see this team play without Kim Shinwook and Jang Hyunsoo against Poland. Just to see how it's like. That'll be the real test.
    Hopefully KSW playing 90 mins mean he won't play against Poland.
     
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  3. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    I'm pretty sure HHC or LKH will start against Poland.
     
  4. Tiger12

    Tiger12 Red Card

    Nov 26, 2007
    Northern Virginia
    Club:
    Suwon Bluewings
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Who are the options for Jang Hyunsoo?
     
  5. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    Hong Jeong Ho. Yes, not a big upgrade. But enough is enough.
     
  6. killaorca

    killaorca Red Card

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    If I was going to select XI against Poland it'll be:

    4-4-2 (diamond)/4-3-3
    Son Heungmin-Kwon Changhoon
    Koo Jacheol
    Park Jooho-Lee Jaesung
    Ki Sungyueng
    Kim Minwoo-Hong Jeongho-Kim Minjae-Lee Yong/Choi Chulsoon
    Cho Hyunwoo

    it can also transform into 4-4-2 flat if needed
    Son Heungmin-Koo Jacheol
    Park Jooho-Lee Jaesung-Ki Sungyueung-Kwon Changhoon
    very fluid

    Also we can add either Hwang Heechan or Lee Geunho as supersub to add extra energy and speed.
     
  7. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    I wouldn't start KJC as he has caught a cold.

    4-3-3/4-4-2 like today:

    Son Heungmin-Hwang Heechan-Kwon Changhoon
    Lee Jaesung-Ki Sungyong-Park Jooho
    Kim Minwoo-Hong Jeongho-Kim Minjae-Choi Chulsoon
    Cho Hyunwoo

    subs:
    45th Koo Jacheol in Kwon Changhoon out
    60th Lee Keunho in Hwang Heechan out
    75th Yeom Kihun in Lee Jaesung out
    75th Lee Changmin in Son Heungmin out
    80th Yun Young Sun in Ki Sungyong out (full defense)

    South Korea 1-0 Poland :whistling:
     
  8. killaorca

    killaorca Red Card

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    It's not like he'll still be sick till Tuesday. I'll start him, he's too good to play sub.
     
  9. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  10. Gayageum

    Gayageum Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 22, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    He's misrepresenting Shin's quote. Shin basically said that he played Son in various areas because Son's flexible and capable of playing anywhere (left, right, center, etc.) but if Son's tightly marked (inferring that Shin doesn't have the tactical nous to mitigate it), Son will have to rely on his individual skills.
     
  11. 12th Warrior

    12th Warrior Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 27, 2006
    I don't think that quote is too off the mark:

    http://sports.news.naver.com/kfootball/news/read.nhn?oid=117&aid=0003027958

    Is Son good enough to be a playmaker? Is that even his role as a striker?

    But at the end of the day, with a player in form like Son and still unable to beat an unheralded and an unrated team like N. Ireland says a lot...and that is we are effed. LOL
     
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  12. edlee1992

    edlee1992 Member+

    Apr 3, 2012
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    heck no. his touches arent good/consistent enough. He needs room to do his thing, he doesnt have the ability to create some room for himself to pull the trigger when he is marked (like robben, neymar, salah, etc). He needs alot of support.
     
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  13. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
     
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  14. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    이어 이영표 해설위원은 "우리 포백 라인의 약점이 역습에 의한 실점이다. 북아일랜드 전을 통해 스웨덴과 러시아월드컵에서 맞붙을 경우를 대비할 필요가 있다"고 강조했다. 특히 "우리 수비 라인은 전북 소속 선수들 위주로 짜여졌다. 모두 5명이 이번 대표팀에 차출됐으며, 오늘 북아일랜드 전에도 포백 4명 중 3명이 기용됐다"며 "그런데 전북은 지난 시즌 9골을 역습으로 실점한 바 있다"고 지적했다.

    While I agree with Lee Young-pyo's points, the bigger issue of our defensive line's weakness is because of Jang Hyun-soo's continuous fcuk ups, he literally makes a small problem become even bigger. Again, it's beyond me as to why this repeat offender is still relevant to the national team, or why Shin Tae-yong keeps bothering to select him, I mean what's even the point when the dude doesn't even show up and bother to defend only to end up panicking 100% of the fcuking time on the pitch upon the opposition's pressure. Is this some sort of a fcuking sick joke/fetish of Shin Tae-yong's or some shit?

    I swear I have never seen such a tool who calls himself a professional continuously fcuk up so bad and still manage to get a tap on the wrist. Instead of trying to understand the issues and trying learn from his mistakes in order to improve as a player, he doesn't do anything about it at all. Shin Moon-sun couldn't have said it any better during the EAFF E-1 Football Championships last year, Jang Hyun-soo has some serious mental issues that needs to be looked into and further analyzed because the continuous drop in lack of mental discipline is costing us.

    I sincerely hope he gets injured against Poland on Tuesday.
     
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  15. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic

    @36:03, So true :ROFLMAO:.
     
  16. krnxsnoopy

    krnxsnoopy Member

    Jun 11, 2013
    Struggled against N. Ireland. Lack of ideas in the final third. Shaky at the back. If we keep playing this way we're going to get rekt by Germany, Mexico, Sweden lol. I hope we don't get embarrassed at the WC. Sigh
     
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  17. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Korea looked toothless today.

    Looking at the highlight video, now I understand the constant sh*t posting about KSW. The man wasted so many chances lol.
     
  18. Marco91

    Marco91 Member+

    Mar 12, 2016
    At home
    Club:
    Dijon FCO
    With another striker instead of KSW, the result would have been a lot different.
     
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  19. jessypjs

    jessypjs Member+

    May 3, 2010
    Club:
    AS Monaco FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    #319 jessypjs, Mar 25, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2018
    Maybe but many bad decisions were taken overall on the offensive phase. Even if KSW played awfully yesterday, he's not responsible of all the failures.

    edit : We shouldn't forget that an imaginary off side was whistled, without it we would have led 2-0.
     
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  20. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    20th min: LJS wants to kick KSW out of the squad. Seriously, he should've shot instead of passing. + HHC's pass was nice

     
  21. 12th Player

    12th Player Member+

    Nov 3, 2009
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    In KSW's defense, that was a good block by the NI defender.
     
  22. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    Need to drop KSW and bring Suk in.
     
  23. Testator

    Testator Member

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Wanyama is a terrific defensive player, and he can single-handedly make a team look defensively solid- that allows Son to be quite forward-minded. I know Wanyama from his Celtic days. Absolute rock at the back of midfield, or in the defense.
    Since Korea doesn't have a player that could cover an entire side like this, I think 4-2-3-1 is a bad idea.
     
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  24. wetcrispy

    wetcrispy Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 5, 2007
    hollywoo
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    while the final scoreline puts a downer on the whole match, most of us were very positive about the first half. i saw a lot of attacking movement and individual runs that i haven't seen from the KNT in years. and actual well timed through passes, as if the players have some semblance of chemistry.

    apart from that, the timeless KNT themes of revolving-door defense and poor quality in the final third just manifested themselves again.
     
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  25. batumchange2

    batumchange2 Member+

    South Korea
    May 6, 2015
    accept that the team is weak. only half a year ago korea just barely scraped past the qualifiers. look at the squad. you can make all the inclusions exclusion you think are necessary and it will still be a poor team. with defensive discipline and some luck the team is still good enough to get results in the world cup but unless you are into disappointments lower your expectations
     
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