[International Friendly] Korea vs Chile 2018/09/11 [R]

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  1. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    lmao Augsburg posted it was disappointing to not see JDW playing by mistake :ROFLMAO::rolleyes:
     
  2. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    다가오는 10월 A매치 구상을 무는 질문에는 “이번 9월 A대표팀 명단은 러시아 월드컵 최종 예선과 본선 경기들을 통해서 확정한 선수들이다. 여기에 추가적으로 일부 기술 파트에서 조언을 받은 선수들로 선발햇다. 10월 A매치 명단 발표에 대해서는 내가 결정권을 갖게 될 것이다. 23명이든, 24명이든 말이다. 10월까지는 아직 시간이 좀 있다. 경기도 많다. 많은 경기를 보고 분석해서, 선수들을 뽑겠다”라고 답했다.

    또 벤투 감독은 “선수 선발 기준은 당연히 기술이 있어야 한다. 그 뒤로는 대표팀에 대한 열망이나 간절한 등이 중요한 요소다. 지금 대표팀 선수들은 이를 잘 보여줬다. 그러나 10월에는 선수 구성이 얼마든지 바뀔 수 있다”라고 전했다.

    Bento gonna clean house, and I really hope he drops Jang Hyun-soo.
     
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  3. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    Han Chan Hee is waiting for a call up. He'd be the best backup to Ki for the moment. They share similar traits such as long passes, long range shooting and playmaking, while also sharing weaknesses such as speed and defending. This season, HCH has stepped up, playing under hard circumstances (YSC isn't a great manager as he was as a player). He's often been the best player on the pitch when Jeonnam played. Truly deserves a chance imo.
     
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  4. 12th Player

    12th Player Member+

    Nov 3, 2009
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    So why isn't he ever called up? What are the powers that be not seeing?
     
  5. Marco91

    Marco91 Member+

    Mar 12, 2016
    At home
    Club:
    Dijon FCO
    I agree, but unfortunately in the k league he can't improve his defensive skills that much.
     
  6. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Compare and contrast:
    2018


    vs

    2008
     
  7. Marco91

    Marco91 Member+

    Mar 12, 2016
    At home
    Club:
    Dijon FCO
    too much young and incosistent before this season (also dealing wiht injury) but he's only 21. KCH and 2015 season = HCH and 2018 season
     
  8. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    Before Ki's replacement, we need a hard working CDM who runs a lot, like Choi Young Joon from Gyeongnam whom many compares to Kante. A huuuuuge update to JWY who doesn't have any special traits (his only strength are long passes, but we have Ki already). I hope Bento tests him next month, together with HCH.
     
  9. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    I seriously think HHC can be a huge player if he can just improve his finish/pass at the end...
     
  10. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    I think 12th Player meant why he has not been called up for U23.
     
  11. Marco91

    Marco91 Member+

    Mar 12, 2016
    At home
    Club:
    Dijon FCO
    but we are talking about senior team now...:confused:
     
  12. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC

    I take that back...he should do the honorable thing and retire from NT duties
     
  13. Hodori

    Hodori Red Card

    Aug 12, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    A good match overall. Chile had plenty of time to rest and get over jet lag since their friendly with Japan was cancelled. It's definitely nice to watch a match against stronger opposition hoping for a win versus hoping not to get humiliated. You can see the obvious quality of Chile, particularly in the way they pressed individually and collectively. We still have quite a bit of work to get to their level in terms of collectively cutting out passes/squeezing the lines together. Nevertheless, we did well considering JHS and KJH played the entire match.

    Here are some of my match notes/thoughts.

    1. KJH - trash. Three decent saves. Four horrendous passes with two that should have led to the opposition scoring. He's also horribly inaccurate with his long kicks, which always went to the opposition's fullbacks instead of HHC or HEJ. He really looks like a converted volleyball player. Felix from westworld cemented his spot as the No. 2. We need to test out other GKs for the No. 3 role. We missed Cho HW who is a bit weak with his kicks but never suicidal like KJH.

    2. JHS - the lit dumpster with lighter fluid to KJH's trash. What a donkey. He tries so hard. Yet, he's just not good at anything. There were two headers where he looked like a seal trying to balance the ball on his head. Both gifted the ball to the opposition. He can never cut out a pass, because he can't read the play. He's ALWAYS waiting for the opponent to receive the ball, then he closes in, which makes him constantly late to the challenge. He strings along 7 decent passes, yet he's always due for 3 horrendous passes. That last backpass (aka, assist to Chile) was something that you'd see from LKI's opponents when they were 8 years old on shootdori. He's 27! Think about that for a moment. JHS is entering his prime as a professional. Yet he is incapable of flushing out fundamental errors that a choding shouldn't be making. A poster asked why Japanese clubs would use someone like him... Well, it's because the JNT defenders are already in Europe... What a complete waste of an exemption.

    3. Hong Chul/YSY - I can't quite believe that I'm going to type this... But... Right now, Hong Chul is better than YSY. Not that YSY was bad in this match, he was serviceable and made only one really bad defensive mistake, but Hong Chul is just better in attack and when tracking back. SHM spends much less time being pinned back when paired with HC than when he was paired with YSY. Makes STY look all the more foolish for not using him in the first two WC matches. Anyway, HC looked great in the last match. And it was very unfortunate to see him get injured in this match. But I think he is the first choice left back right now.

    4. LY - his stamina was yet again an issue. He started out fine picking up from where he left off in the Costa Rica match. But then he hit a wall and started regressing quickly. His crossing was suspect too in this match, but I think that was due to his stamina. And obviously he was struggling to track back, even though he gave a 100%. Kim MH better be ready, because he's probably going to get more minutes in the next two friendlies. Same for CCS and KYH, because they should be tested.

    5. NTH - anonymous. Disappointing that he was so easily contained. He might have to be the bowling ball option against minnows.

    6. HUJ - he looked exhausted. Led the line pretty well; not as well as JDW. I want to see him at 100% after much needed rest to compare against JDW.

    7. JDW/LJS - both looked sharp and well in tune with Bento's system. In a way, the 4-2-3-1 is really what kick-started JDW's KNT career. And he looked sharp playing it again. What gives him the edge over HUJ in matches against stronger opposition imo, is that JDW is capable of interchanging with SHM on the left to confuse and draw out the central defenders. As for LJS, he just looks comfortable anywhere across the advanced positions. He's also not sacrificing himself unnecessarily like he did under STY and can show off his counterattacking/offensive skillset.

    8. HHC - he's still struggling with his decision making in the final third. Otherwise, he could not be contained and was completely disruptive to the opposition's defensive line. Let's hope he keeps getting match minutes in high pressure situations...

    9. JWY - hmmm. Today, we saw KSY push forward more often and JWY staying back. It wasn't a bad performance. It was a neutral performance. He has the ability to make an incisive pass. Yet he doesn't do it when coming up against stronger opposition. It was frustrating to watch. It was a bit like drinking Michelob Ultra; it's still beer and low calories but just unsatisfying...

    10. HIB - I don't know why some of you are jumping down his throat. He was catching up to the intensity and pace of the match late on. But I was ok with his passing. And I think he pairs well with KSY. I really liked how he tracked back and shielded the ball out for a goal kick inside our box; it was a bit of defensive work that was better than what JHS could produce. I think he should have been substituted on the 65 minute mark, because then you would have seem him settle into the rhythm of the match and make our midfield more dynamic and fluid by playing alongside KSY.

    11. KSY/SHM - do we need to say more? Class. SHM probably does wish he smashed that left footer rather than cross.

    12. LSW - I think he was the substitute for SHM. Anyway, he needs to step it up at club level and in training to fight his way for more playing time. I was surprised to see MSM come in ahead of him. That means MSM showed more intensity in training... For the sake of the KNT, we can't continue to watch MSM run around like a headless chicken...
     
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  14. trebaruna

    trebaruna Member

    Jun 13, 2017
    Los Angeles
    So how are you guys liking Paulo Bento's work so far?
     
  15. ChaDuRi671

    ChaDuRi671 Member+

    Dec 30, 2010
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Fixed.

     
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  16. Hodori

    Hodori Red Card

    Aug 12, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I think I finally know what my wife feels like after she takes this medicine... Bento lunch special is like Midol for the KNT...

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  17. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I feel more relieved from the two games under Bento, than I ever have with four years under Stielike and Shin Tae-yong, add three years under Choi Kang-hee, and that's seven years of complete bullshit and dismay in total.
     
  18. helo

    helo Member

    Jul 10, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Can some kind soul gif the part when we did this? It blew my mind lol
     
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  19. Ceezy

    Ceezy Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    Maybe he can "retire" from WCQ and be guaranteed a WC spot if we need him. He's so pro he'd probably be able to slot right in without a problem. And nobody should begrudge him as some kind of coattail-rider at this point in his career.
     
  20. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    That'd be a nice solution/idea but I doubt that Ki's personality would allow that.
     
  21. Ceezy

    Ceezy Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    You mean he'll want to have played all the WCQ if he's gonna go to the WC?
     
  22. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Cha Du-ri esque speed.
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  23. 12th Warrior

    12th Warrior Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 27, 2006
    Our goalie looked like he was playing for Chile.

    Also, I don't want us to invite and pay for friendlies with Latin American teams. The fact that they are so disrespectful to their host country makes me want to do what that dude is doing in the second gif.
     
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  24. aeh1991

    aeh1991 Member+

    Dec 16, 2015
    Club:
    FC Augsburg
    No I meant that I think he will retire after the Asian Cup and he probably won't return at the WC because he feels unfair to the others if he did. I also think he has talked to PJS a lot (he mentioned that somewhere) about his retirement from KNT and will follow a similar path.
     
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