Interesting Best XI

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Excape Goat, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Further suggestions for a Dutch "no caps" team: Kees Bregman (libero of Duisburg in the 1970s). Jan-Nico Hoogma (centre back for Hamburg around 2000), Dick van Burik (Hertha BSC 90s/00s) and Alfred Nijhuis (stopper for Duisburg in the 1990s).
     
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  2. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Nürnberg All-Time IX (using WW-system because the club's heyday was the 1920s):

    ----11 Hans SUTOR-------------9 Heinz STREHL-----------7 Zvezdan CEBINAC

    -----------------------10 Heiner TRÄG---------8 Max MORLOCK
    ---------3 Stefan REISCH---------5 Hans KALB-----------2 Hans SCHMIDT

    ----------------------4 Ludwig MÜLLER-----------6 Ferdinand WENAUER

    ----------------------------------1 Heiner STUHLFAUTH
     
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  3. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    Bundesliga imports stay home XI

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  4. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Pizarro could be in contention here
     
  5. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    Id prefer Jan v Halst over Boateng because of his passing.

    Musampa is a nice suggestion. He played 3 (left back) in the great match against Madrid, if I recall correctly. But it would feel like playing him out of position.

    van Lent never played in that Latin Cup final. Also some of his goals came from penalties. He was included because he apparently formed a good offensive partnership with Julien Stopyra.
    https://www.sitercl.com/Fichejo/V/vanlentw.htm
     
  6. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    Who do you see as the best of these defenders?
     
  7. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    Stay home XI (433)
    1 Edwin vd Sar
    2 Dan Petrescu
    3 Sylvinho
    4 Sami Hyypia
    5 Jaap Stam
    6 Michael Essien
    7 Luis Suárez
    8 Kevin de Bruyne
    9 Sergio Agüero
    10 Dennis Bergkamp
    11 Gianfranco Zola
     
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  8. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    A 2nd attempt for the Utrecht born XI

    1 Hans van Breukelen
    2 Ferdi Vierklau
    3 Jan Vos
    4 Reinier Kreijermaat
    5 Hans Kraay
    6 Henk Hordijk
    7 Gerald Vanenburg
    8 Jan Wouters
    9 Marco van Basten
    10 Wesley Sneijder
    11 Rob de Wit

    Subs: Gert Bals, Dick van Burik, Jan van Halst, Leo van Veen, Piet van Reenen, Tonny van der Linden, Wout Buitenweg
     
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  9. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Alfred Nijhuis.
     
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  10. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Bundesliga XI Borussia Mönchengladbach:

    ---------------9 Josef HEYNCKES---------7 Allan SIMONSEN

    ---11 Stefan EFFENBERG---10 Günter NETZER----8 Herbert WIMMER
    --------------------4 Ulrich STIELIKE----------6 Rainer BONHOF

    ----------------3 Patrik ANDERSSON-----------2 Hans-Hubert VOGTS
    -----------------------------------5 Klaus-Dieter SIELOFF

    --------------------------------------1 Wolfgang KLEFF
     
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  11. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Absolutely. I picked Ailton because he was crucial in Bremen's 2004 championship and also became Germany's first ever non-German footballer of the year. But that aside, Pizarro was a better player definitely.
     
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  12. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Hmmm I would have thought Nico Jan Hoogma. Based on that he climbed to team captain status for a higher status team (HSV was 3rd and 4th in the league in his individual best seasons), and also a higher 'best ranking' in kicker and included more often in their lists. Maybe also swayed by what Hoogma did at the Eredivisie; see now that Nijhuis became only pro at the age of 25!
    https://www.11freunde.de/interview/der-spaetstarter-alfred-nijhuis-ueber-seine-kuriose-karriere
     
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  13. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    Hoogma was the best of them, I overlooked him. Then Nijhuis.
     
  14. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    #1214 annoyedbyneedoflogin, Mar 2, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2018
    Edited°
     
  15. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    XIton

    I'm sure there's room for a ton of improvement.

    1 Tom Heaton - Burnley FC
    2 Éverton - Flamengo
    3 Brett Emerton - Feyenoord
    4 Olaf Thon - Schalke 04
    5 Waldemar Anton - Hannover 96
    6 Aílton - Flamengo
    7 Darren Anderton - Tottenham
    8 Joey Barton - Manchester City
    9 Aílton - Werder Bremen
    10 Ewerthon - Borussia Dortmund
    11 Aílton - Pumas
     
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  16. world soccer magazines

    Oct 31, 2016
    Stay Home???
     
  17. world soccer magazines

    Oct 31, 2016
    Below 5'8 XI:
    ---------------------Campos
    Benarrivo----Lahm---------Cordoba--Lizerazu
    ----------------Xavi----------Giles
    ---------------------Maradona-
    ------------Zola----------------------Messi
    -----------------------Signori

    I couldn't think of many Centre-backs under 5'8 so I had to put Lahm there. Cordoba is listed as 5'8-the smallest good centre back I could find. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
     
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  18. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    I would suggest Olaf Thon (5'6) as one of the centre-backs (instead of Lahm). He played sweeper for Bayern (1992-94), Schalke (1994-01) and Germany (1997-98) and is thus a viable option for central defense.
     
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  19. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #1219 msioux75, Mar 4, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2018
    Chumpitaz is the man at the back.

    Suggestions for other places: Monti, Mascherano, Tevez
     
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  20. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Why no Davids??
     
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  21. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    This one is up for revision.
    I blatantly copied the names of some of the defenders from other threads without much further investigation.
    -Morten Olsen, Branko Zebec and Fahrudin Jusufi only played in Germany in their final years. And the Bundesliga started with the 63/64 season. LOL.
    Jusufi did get mentioned by Eric Batty when at Frankfurt but not by Kicker.
    -Frans de Munck played in the 50's. LOL.

    How about this fix:
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    About the formation
    I don't see any direct way to compete with Robbery and their teammate Lewandowski. There are no other offensive tridents of note.
    So the next best thing is the best offensive double, namely Grafite and Dzeko, hence the Wolfsburg colors and 2008 formation.

    About the rest of the players
    -Rein is Frans de Munck's successor. Kicker and DBScalcio back him up as the best Bundesliga GK 2002-2004 . It is only fitting that he takes it up with Ronnie Hellström.
    -The left-footed Bordon and the right-footed Naldo would have a great Brazilian understanding, which is backed by DBScalcio and their respective clubs' alltime selections.
    -According to Kicker and fans, Rune Bratseth was a better libero than Per Røntved. He is also, arguably, the Norwegian GOAT.
    -On the flanks, Sagnol and Bailey, "the new Robben", are picked for their offensive game. Rodríguez
    and Alaba are optional.
    -Emerson and Bo Larsson only had a 3 year Bundesliga career. But it's 1 year longer than Sören Lerby and Jan Wouters;) They were also more dynamic.
    -Diego over the less technical Herzog, trigger happy Sigurvinsson and static D'Alessandro. But I have my doubts about Okocha. @Gregoriak. How good was Jay-Jay at Frankfurt? Just like Bailey he made things look so easy.
     
  22. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Juventus Football Clube Ajax Mineiro de Deportes
    Jun 11, 2012
    The best of the leftovers, the players unpicked, the guys staying home.
     
  23. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Nice one

    Another one, could de De Vecchi, or maybe too old.
    @world soccer magazines
     
  24. world soccer magazines

    Oct 31, 2016
    #1224 world soccer magazines, Mar 4, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2018
    Mascherano and Tevez are over or at 5'8; at least according to wiki. The others are good suggestions. I actually never heard of Chumpitaz or De Vecchi before.
     
  25. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Also Hagi, Scholes, Roberto Carlos, Garrincha, Romario, Makelele, Deschamps..
     
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