Interesting Best XI

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Excape Goat, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You can also add Lauren Robert to the bench.
     
  2. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    He was born in Bologna, Italy and raised in Sydney, Australia.

    Umit Davala was born in Germany.

    Anthony Seric and Josip Siminic were born in Australia.
     
  3. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Best Tall Xl

    GK Cech -- 198 cm

    RB Zebina -- 187
    CB Stam -- 191
    CB Hyypia -- 191
    LB Grosso -- 190

    RM Pires -- 188
    CM Ballack -- 189
    DM Vieria -- 192
    LM Zidane -- 185

    FW Ibrahimovic -- 192
    FW Koller -- 202(Adriano at 189, but cannot ignore two meters)

    Dida 195
    Thuram 185
    Panucci 180
    Bonera 183
    Terry 186
    Huth 190
    Campbell 188
    Hyypia 191
    Boumsong 190
    king 188
    Rio 188
    Ismael 191
    Lucio 188
    Alex 188
    Mertsacker 198
    Maldini 187
    Chiellini 186
    Zambrotta 181
    Jankulovski 184
    O'Shea 191
    Beckham 180
    C.Ronaldo 184
    zidane 185
    Veron 186
    Rivaldo 186
    Hamann 188
    Sissoko 189
    Ballack 189
    Lampard 183
    Adriano 189
    Toni 194
    vieri 185
    Henry 188
    Couch 198
    Makkaay 188
    Kuranyi 190
    Koller 202
    Carew 195
     
  4. silver bullet

    silver bullet Member

    May 11, 2004
    Seedorf was born in Amsterdam. Last time I checked, Amsterdam was in Holland.
     
  5. silver bullet

    silver bullet Member

    May 11, 2004
    RvN.
     
  6. Hrvat

    Hrvat New Member

    Mar 27, 2005
    Zagreb, Croatia
    Yes, and they both can play a left back.

    You can make a best XI for USSR and Yugoslavia (in 90's and now) if those countries hadn't fallen apart. I maybe post it later.
     
  7. Bertje

    Bertje New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Leiden

    Rafael van der Vaart 175
     
  8. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    how tall is Obafemi Martins?
     
  9. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Here are Bobby Charlton's choices for his best team ever: (as of 2002, I believe):

    .....................Banks
    ....................Bobby Moore
    Djalma Santos...Beckenbauer...Marzolini
    Platini..........Di Stefano.....Roy Keane
    Pele...........Maradona.......Best

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/spanish/misc/newsid_2008000/2008945.stm

    He made some very obvious choices (Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano)

    He also seemed to be partial to players he played with (Banks, Moore), or players he played against (Beckenbauer, Marzolini).

    Banks and Moore are legitimate choices, although perhaps I detect a slight English bias. (Think of Yashin, or Baresi as possible alternatives).

    Beckenbauer is also an obvious choice. It is nice to see that for left back he picked Silvio Marzolini, one of my boyhood heroes, who played against him at both the 62 and 66 World Cups. (A bit surprising though, considering Paolo Maldini is available.)

    It is probably not surprising that Charlton would pick Best, probably the best British player ever, even though players like Garrincha are available. Platini is also a good choice, but perhaps surprising ahead of Cryuff. And D.Santos is an excellent choice for right fulback.

    But to me his most interesting pick to me is Roy Keane. Which tells me England's WC winning captain was probably thinking strategically rather than just collecting the top talent.

    (Either that or they are good friends. I don't know. :D )

    Anyway, nice team by Sir Bobby.
     
  10. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    that raises an important question. are mental attributes like leadership, toughness, intimidation and courage talent? Many would say no, right off the bat but we consider players who have excellent vision to be talented no? I think that perhaps a player who has an amazing work-rate who fears no one and has a great footballing brain is a superb player, whether that's talent I don't know.

    Even something as simple as finishing. Ruud is obviously a natural as many of his goals are instinctive, but does that make him more or less talented than someone who's finishing skills are technical? Ala Del Pieiro or Solskjaer?
     
  11. tpmazembe

    tpmazembe Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    The Midfield (S.Fla)
    Best October XI (October being my birth-month).

    ---------------Yashin------------------
    ----Perfumo-----Figueroa-----Cabrini---
    ------Keane---------Falcao------------
    ---------------Didi------------Charlton--
    Garrincha-----Pele-----Maradona-------

    Don't be fooled by the lack of a CF. That was a choice. I've got people like VanBasten and Sivori on the bench. Plus subs of the caliber of Duncan Edwards, Kopa, Gento and Fritz Walter.......

    Yep, October is the month for craques.

    Beat that.......
     
  12. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    170 cm
     
  13. girco

    girco New Member

    Jul 3, 2005
    São Paulo
    The GK gotta be Jorge Campos! I don't know how tall he is but surely not even 1,80
    Robinho is 1,70
    And how could you forget Romario at 1,69? :eek:
     
  14. tomas_brolin

    tomas_brolin Member

    Jan 27, 2004
    Geneva, IL
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Sweden
    isnt campos like 5 ft 5in ?
     
  15. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When Campos played in MLS, he was listed as 5'7".
     
  16. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    All the players are active. Well, Romario is active. Anyway, I had a book at home that had the roster of all the teams in La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, EPL, the French, the Portugese, the Dutch and a few teams in the CL. Basically, I looked through all the big teams for short players and came up with this team.
     
  17. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    One heck of a team. Good one!!!!
     
  18. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    My XI for the greatest players to have not played at a World Cup:

    GK ------------------Tacconi

    SW -------------------Blind

    DF Viv Anderson ------Di Stefano ---- Hulshoff

    MD Best ---------- Kubala --------- Giggs

    ST Litmanen ---- Rush ------Mancini

    I want to explain Di Stefano's place as a centre back. I couldn't think of a great centre back who didn't play at a World Cup and Di Stefano could play in many positions. Instead of playing like a centre back, he could play as a fourth midfielder, which is probably a much better position for Di Stefano.
     
  19. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Anyone wants to try best XI for Serie A, Bundesliga, EPL, etc?
     
  20. Bertje

    Bertje New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Leiden
    Best Eredivisie:

    ----------------van Beveren

    --Suurbier---Hulshoff-Koeman---Krol
    ------------------Rijkaard
    -------Neeskens-----------Cruijff
    Bergkamp-------------------------Gullit
    -----------------van Basten


    Bench: van Breukelen, Keizer, Swart, Blind, Davids, van Hanegem, Jansen, Rijsbergen, Aerle, van Tiggelen, Kieft

    I might be missing out on some players, but this is the best I could think of right now. Note that I picked the players on their play in Holland. Ronaldo and Romario both were far from as good as van Basten as in Holland.

    Faas Wilkes and Abe Lenstra atleast deserve a mention but I haven't seen much of them, close to nothing so it is very hard to compare them with these players.
     
  21. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    England pre-1970

    -------------------Banks
    --Crompton---Wright---Moore---Hapgood
    --------Blanchflower---James
    Matthews--Greaves-----Lofthouse--Finney

    Subs: Trautmann, Flowers, Charlton, Mackay, Giles, Gallacher, Franklin

    England post-1970

    -----------------Schmeichel
    --Neal------Hansen----Adams----Sansom
    ----------Souness------Keane
    ----------Bergkamp--------------Barnes
    ----------Shearer-----Dalglish

    Subs: Jennings, Ratcliffe, Henry, Rush, Robson, Hoddle, Giggs
     
  22. Borruma

    Borruma Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    Dublin
    Interesting choices there lanman, I thought Edwards would have a made pre-70 team or did he just die too young to be included? And John Charles is another surprising exclusion for me at least.

    Most post-70's English league teams would have Cantona in it.
     
  23. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Charles' best years were spent in Italy, but if I was doing an all-time British XI he would certainly be in consideration.
    I considered Edwards, but it's pretty impossible to leave Blanchflower out and I wanted a much more attacking partner for him. Even then if I did go for more steel in the middle I would have taken Dave Mackay based on longevity over him.
    As for Cantona, you could certainly make a claim for him over Bergkamp (I'm sure any Man Utd fan would) but not Dalglish - I've just always been a huge fan of Bergkamp.
     
  24. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich

    What about Geels and van der Kuijlen? They played in the Ere Divisie all of their respective careers.
     
  25. Bertje

    Bertje New Member

    Nov 10, 2004
    Leiden
    True, but I consider both Kieft and van Basten to be better. Though it would be very close between Geels and Kieft. Kieft also had that great physical presence which could be nice off the bench. Blind also played in eh Eredivisie his entire carier, but nobody will claim that he was better then Koeman(Ronald).
     

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