In with the new - Summer 2019 transfer thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Feb 1, 2019.

  1. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Grimaldo
    Tierney
    Chillwell

    Any of them pls

    The. We need a rb who would e be expensive as lich sucks. Maybe clyne?

    We also need a cb and winger at least
     
  2. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I've always been high on Clyne, but I dontd really think he is objectively better than Jenkenson.
     
  3. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Of course he is

    Injuries messed him up at Liverpool and now Taa is starting he wouldn’t cost much
     
  4. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    An injury prone right back at Arsenal, that would be an anomaly.
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's interesting with De Gea allegedly pulling an Ozil/Ramsey/Alexis that this seems to be becoming a thing

    According to the pundit class, one should simply cave in to De Gea because he can't be replaced at a sensible price so you just have to pay him what he can get on the open market with sign on fee. Arsenal paid the money on Ozil but decided not to on Ramsey. Seems Utd are so far refusing to pay.

    IMO there are two big issues with this

    1. Utd cannot just give Alexis parity to DDG because this will obviously destroy their wage structure. Which shows the mistake of signing Alexis. What goes around comes around

    2. If players are not signing extensions with 2 years to run - you must sell the player to recover your transfer value

    Utd seem to have made the same mistake Arsenal made on Alexis/Ozil/Ramsey

    All 3 should have been sold sooner and not allowed to turn their contracts down.
     
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  6. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    If we're perfectly honest United should never have bought Sanchez from the outset.
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes. Doing that at paying the sign on fee as salary wrecked their structure
     
  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They need to spend huge if de gea goes

    He is good for 10 points or more a year with his heroics
     
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  9. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    He is almost the only reason they aren't still in 9th right now.
     
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  10. cooper7d7

    cooper7d7 Member

    Feb 7, 2001
    CT
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For future reference, 9th place has 39 points and united has 58.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I do wonder if "pulling a Ramsey" has kind of broken the transfer system a bit for the top 2-3 players at a club

    Why sign a new contract?

    You might as well run down (if the club lets you) and capture a pay bump plus "signing on fee" which is a % of your own transfer fee

    So like - why would Pogba reup, unless his new contract 2 years out, effectively includes "signing on money"
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Rangers
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    e.g. if clubs like Barca or Madrid or City would pay 150m to sign Pogba, then he should not reup with United unless he gets a % of this money

    Otherwise better to hold out over the last 2 years

    The only way to stop this, is if Utd sell him immediately to claim the 150m themselves.
     
  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sort of. Jose leaving and Ole coming was more significant in terms of their steady climb back up the table
     
  14. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Yeah but if he wasn't saving them points while Mou was in charge they would need Ole and a delorian to get anywhere near the top half of the table.
     
  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Big Daddy Wengz said this was going to happen 2-3 seasons ago. Transfer will become a thing of the past and footballers will become true free agents. I’m all for it.
     
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  16. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He was one hundo right about it, and it would be a great development.
     
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  17. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With developments this week, it's kinda hard to imagine Overmars jumping ship from Ajax to Arsenal.
     
  18. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    unless of course he doesn't want to be involved with their inevitable fire sale
     
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  19. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roma fired their manager yesterday and have parted ways with Monchi today. Opting to start over with a clean slate in the FO. The Monchi to Arsenal claims are sure to pickup shortly. Nice thing about this is that he could join immediately and hopefully have some deals finalized before the window ever opens.
     
  20. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Certainly hope so. It'd be nuts to intend to bring him in but not have his input on important summer business until June or July.
     
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  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Roma fans seem to think his track record is mixed.
     
  22. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure, I'd be prevaricating if I said I had any basis for an opinion one way or another. My main is that if this is indeed happening, it should happen early enough so that he's involved in the process. I get the sense that one of the reasons the Ramsey thing went south was that Gazidis really wanted him to stay regardless of what Raul thought, but once the former left, Raul said, "yeah --- no, not for that kind of money."
     
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  23. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on how you look at his time at Roma. I honestly think he did what Roma wanted. He cashed in on older players and brought in young guys with huge upside. There are a couple deals (NZonzi) that don't fit that MO but those deals have all worked pretty well for Roma given the overall circumstances. The underlying issue is that Roma as a whole have regressed. That's why they axed the manager
     
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  24. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The older players he depended on this season have failed him most. Your Fazios, Dzekos, Florenzis, and so on.

    He wanted EDF to stay during yesterdays emergency meeting...but Pallotta, our president, overruled him and fired him anyways. So Monchi resigned, feeling he has no power or place now.
     
  25. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of which where Monchi guys
     

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