In with the new - Summer 2019 transfer thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Feb 1, 2019.

  1. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Rabiot may be free, i.e. Arsenal won't have to pay a transfer fee, but he's going to want a substantial signing fee and a big contract. Arsenal would almost certainly see the signing fee as a defacto transfer fee. That said, I don't think Arsenal will be his first choice and I don't think they will commit the money required to satisfy his signing fee and contract demands.
     
  2. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You may very well be right. Fornals can play in the #8 role as well. He doesn't defend as well as Rabiot but definitely better than Xhaka. Still think that would be a pretty strong setup either way. Don't think it will happen. Least likely would be Brandt (think a German team or Liverpool would be a bigger draw for him) or Manolas (I think we go after cheaper targets). But that could leave us enough cash for Marcus Llorente whom could fill the #6/8 role nicely.
     
  3. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I tend to agree but if you look at history on a number of players TransferMarkt is historically low on their market value vs the actual fee paid.
     
  4. CarlosKaiser

    CarlosKaiser New Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 30, 2018
    I think that depends a lot on on the motivations of each club. You have a motivated buyer and an unwilling seller, that player is going to go for over market value. If the club is desperate to sell, they will get less than market value. Ox sold for way over market, Coq and Theo went for slightly over, Gibbs, Giroud, Gabriel and Perez went for under.

    As for potential sales:
    Elneny - Under. Pretty obvious Emery isn't a fan and they will be willing sellers
    Chambers - Over. Just gave him a new contract. Should be able to find a PL buyer
    Ospina - Under. Arsenal want to sell him. Value is so low it doesn't really matter.
    Nacho - Under. I don't think they want to sell but won't fight it either if he wants to return to Spain. Also based on age.
    Miki - Under? I think his wages complicate things even though he still plays a lot
    Mustafi - Under. As often as Emery picks him, you could make an argument that they aren't desperate to sell. But it is hard to imagine a motivated buyer.
    Laca - Over. Obviously
     
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  5. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Just binned a bunch of posts arguing about which club is racist and which isn't. Start a different thread if you guys want to have that discussion. Let's keep this one about transfers (real or imagined) to or from Arsenal.
     
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  6. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Agreed. Apologies to everyone. Just found his argument off but I will inbox him and leave you guys out of it. COYG
     
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  7. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    You're free to start an entire thread about racism in football or whatever title you want to use. Or you can keep it to PMs. Just didn't want you to think I'd bin a specific thread on the topic, because I won't. But I'd prefer this thread be limited to Arsenal-related transfer news.
     
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  8. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Back to the rumors...

    With Griezmann headed out the door, there is now rumor that Atletico are interested in replacing him with Lacazette.

    More stories of Zidane's interest in PAE. It's said that Real is prepared to pay approx 75m GBP to get him.
     
  9. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Someone should tell those Madrid clubs about Auba's and Laca's lackluster finishing.
     
  10. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    Atletico is also rumored to be interested in Cavani & Maxi Gomez so it may be nothing with Laca.

    Reading some stuff about Real... There is a ton of speculation that Zidane doesn't rate Llorente or Ceballos. Both had some really good games this season when given a chance and both are still young (24 & 21). If they truly are willing to pay 75m for Auba, I can't help but wonder if we could get then to sell us those 2 for a portion of that. We could then go after a scoring winger with pace and use Laca as a lone ST. A MF of Torreira, Llorente & Ceballos could be salty behind Laca, Iwobi and Thauvin(???).
     
  11. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Likely garbage but there is a rumor on reddit that turned down a 1m GBP/wk deal in China.

    Same thread also claiming that Steve Bould will leave this summer.
     
  12. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Who?.
     
  13. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Ozil, sorry
     
  14. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Simeone has ruled out Atletico pursuing "glamorous names" to replace Griezmann. Says they will be looking for a promising prospect like they did when they originally signed Antoine. Makes me think that Maxi Gomez may be the top option based on other rumors.

    Laca staying is looking better and better.
     
  15. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Because Ramsey just left for Juventus... news coming out that Allegri will not be coaching Juventus next season. I heard rumor several months ago that Pep was aware of some possible sanctions coming for City and that he had agreed to join Juventus. Wonder if those rumors are now coming to fruition?
     
  16. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Supposedly Ziyech has a 25m release clause
     
  17. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    I've liked what I've seen of him but admit that it's a small sample size.
     
  18. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    That's what she said!
     
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  19. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    This is more Stewie than Brian.
     
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  20. chjoak

    chjoak Member

    Jun 17, 2009
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Journos have spotted Unai at an Atletico game. There is a great deal of speculation that he was there to scout Thomas Partey. Partey's agent has been looking for a team where he could possibly start and has confirmed that there is a 50m euro (43m GBP) release clause.
     
  21. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    May 10, 2006
    Beavercreek, OH
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Someone who struggles to get 90’s for Atlético and is already 25 and will cost £43m.

    Cool.
     
  22. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
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    Arsenal FC
    If he’s not playing for them, he won’t be going for the release clause.
     
  23. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I've been hard for Thomas for years now, hope there is an actual fire there.
     
  24. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not a big fan of Iwobi. He seems immature in different ways (emotionally, skills, football judgment/IQ, etc). If he's ever going to be "good enough" for our XI, I don't see it happening next year. Thus, the idea of loaning him. But if that wasn't an option, and you put a gun to my head and said "keep him or sell him", I'd choose the latter without too much hesitation.
     
  25. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    When I look at Arsenal's roster I see a lack of quality in what should be a key group, players in the prime of their careers. For purposes of this post I have identified them as players between the ages of 25 and 28. Arsenal have 10 players, including loan players 24 and younger, 6 players 29 and older (who will almost certainly be retired by the time Arsenal are ready to compete for the league title again), and seven players between the ages of 25 and 28. This last group includes, Lacazette, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Jenkinson, Xhaka, Elneny, and Leno. Of the field players in this group, the only one I'm completely comfortable with is Lacazette, Mustafi, Jenkinson, and Elneny are almost certainly gone and Xhaka and Kolasinac have holes in their games.

    Looking at this distribution, I think Arsenal need to add one or two quality players in 25 to 28 age range, that will be able to provide leadership when the younger players approach their prime. I will also be extremely disappointed if they add players to the older group.
     

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