Identifying Talent - How and When?

Discussion in 'Youth & HS Soccer' started by UglyParent, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. sam_gordon

    sam_gordon Member

    Feb 27, 2017
    I don't know that it happens in U-Littles, but I'm guessing by U12/U13, most coaches have a pretty good idea of who'd they'd like on their team before tryouts. That may even mean recruiting players from other clubs. Depending on the size of the area, they've probably seen the better players in league games & tournaments. So I don't know that they are relying on a 2 hour tryout for many of the kids.
     
  2. Scoots

    Scoots New Member

    Jul 12, 2016
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    This is likely true in many areas, but in this case that is not true- And yes talking U10-U12 here. This is a new DA- still in its first yearThe tryouts were for filling out a pre-academy developement squads. It is likely a very fluid situation where players will be shuffling in and out as they get the program established. SO were players missed that have potential, very likely yes, but circling back to the article stated, maybe that is ok, as those missed players may be the ones that likely turn out to be the academy players of the future. My point is...in this case a tryout would definitely miss good players, but you are absolutely correct in most programs the coaches already have a pretty good idea what players they would like on their team, I know that is the case for my sons club.
     
  3. Terrier1966

    Terrier1966 Member

    Nov 19, 2016
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    I agree, tryouts have to be held so that it doesn't appear there was no opportunity for new players etc. but on established teams there are few spots open or in play. Older teams don't have equal playing time, they carry extra players more for injury, fatigue and school conflicts than they do for substitution. As they get older, and players need more rest between games and are more likely to get hurt, you will see a team add a player before they will cut one. Many top teams carry 21 and suit 18.

    Tryouts for that type of team happen but the coach isn't looking to upset the balance of things on a winning team...unless there are problem players or families, then a spot may open up.
     
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  4. Terrier1966

    Terrier1966 Member

    Nov 19, 2016
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    I’m going to follow up my own post, sorry about that.

    I’m assuming all parents know to talk with parents on older teams about what to expect next year etc.

    If you don’t know anybody on an older team, change that. Also, Have a chat with the DOC or some other leader. Not to advocate for your kid, or scare them that you are a problem parent...just a conversation about what’s going on at the club, what will it be like next year etc.

    If soccer is important, if you are going to spend $$ and if you don’t want to be a step behind make sure you know enough to know who the coaches will be, what people think of them, what style they play and train etc.

    Families and kids have different profiles, as do coaches. Look for good fits. I’m not saying to leave otherwise but at least be aware if the coach is tough and your player isn’t.

    We’ve had a few conversations on here about people flipping clubs and then being surprised or upset. The natural question is what homework did you do or were you just surfing for greener grass?

    Anyway, now that we’re at the end of our youth journey and will spend more time on the college thread I wanted to pass that along as one of the random thoughts that has popped into my head regarding what I’d tell people after > 18 years and multiple states, clubs, kids, coaches, successes and failures.
     
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  5. tchoke

    tchoke New Member

    Jul 13, 2015
    ontario canada
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    here is my sons first half highlights of this year
    feedback is always welcome
     
  6. Casper van Eijck, the worldleading researcher in pancreatic cancer, but also Feyenoord's team doctor said in an interview with Dutch magazine Voetbal International (https://www.vi.nl/pro/de-eeuwige-strijd-van-casper-van-eijk-met-voetbal-als-tegengif-1) he plans a research akin to the Generation R research with the Feyenoord academy kids to identify what influences/determines their path in soccer. Dna will be part of it.




    Researchers - Generation R

    https://generationr.nl/researchers/

    The Generation R Study is a prospective cohort study from foetal life until young adulthood in a multi-ethnic urban population. The study is designed to identify .
     
  7. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I always like seeing other people's kids play. I miss those days!

    One tip--as hard as it to do (because it means not really watching the match), if you want good highlights, it's generally best to just follow your son, keeping the camera zoomed in around one-third of the field (which you seemed to be doing, at least in the first minute I watched) and always keeping him in the center of the frame. Don't follow the ball, just keep the camera on him and then later edit the footage so it's just highlights.

    That's the advice I was given, and it made sense.

    EDIT: I watched a bit more and your camera work was actually pretty good. The less you move the perspective, the better.

    Your son is very good! I saw some good stuff on both offense and defense.
     

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