To hate VAR or to hate the LOTG? That is the question [R]

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  1. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
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    Aug 30, 2005
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  2. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    Ahhh... new thread smell. Lovely.
     
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  3. newterp

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    Jun 6, 2007
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    what have you done???
     
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  4. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
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  5. SamScouse

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  6. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    So.... They're going to keep VAR! :)

    This is a suggestion several have voiced. But nobody has come up with a "fix"

    For instance, some have argued the offside should be redrafted to try and avoid goals being disallowed over matters of inches, claiming that microscopic analysis of offsides goes against the original spirit of the law.
     
  7. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

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    yep - I think that's what the head of UEFA said yesterday.
     
  8. burning247

    burning247 Member+

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    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
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    FIFA have a lot of work to do on these rules this summer (or at least before the World Cup) which means they're not going to do shit for 20 years...
     
  9. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    Review of STUNNING Dele Alli goal against United -- ball was amazingly controlled past 2 defenders, but lightly brushed off Dele's shoulder, so the VAR check was due to handball rule.

    Goal given in the end. Good call. What a goal.
     
  10. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    Rashford given a pen on edge of box, very slight contact but the ref made the call. Looks like not clear and obvious evidence to overturn, Sissoko seems to have stood on Rashford's toes for a bit.

    Never gonna reverse that decision I don't think, hard to tell what happened in replay. Rashford buries the pen.
     
  11. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    more importantly - ole stays in the job, Jose loses.
     
  12. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    The Manure Spurs match was pretty entertaining for a couple of mid table clubs. Bone headed tackle attempt for that PK. Senseless to pull that in the area.
    A draw would have been a good result.

    As it is it gave the media and Mouriho haters a chance to gloat. I've never been a fan but the guy should be given a chance
     
  13. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

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    FYP
     
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  14. poopoobigelow

    poopoobigelow Moderator
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    Sep 3, 2007
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    lotta puns out there for this one, cap. i respect the basic title...
     
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  15. imasyko

    imasyko Member+

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    Dear God, another VAR thread? :)
     
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  16. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

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    Yeah, it's just too bad he didn't earn any of that money. Or the hate that came with it.
    He's not exactly Moyes

    Hey I didn't say I like him. But got to respect his record.
    Prolly the winningest manager in football. As we say in pointy ball.

    From Wiki. (Not a bad CV)
    Following an uneventful career as amidfielder across Portugal's football pyramid, Mourinho first entered the sphere of management as an interpreter for Sir Bobby Robson at Sporting CPand Porto, before gaining success as an assistant at Barcelona under both Robson and his successor, Louis van Gaal. After impressing with brief managerial periods at Benfica andUnião de Leiria, he returned to Porto as manager in 2002. With the club, Mourinho won the Primeira Liga twice, aTaça de Portugal, the UEFA Cup, and the UEFA Champions League; the latter being Porto's first European Cup title since 1987. That success earned him a move to England with Chelsea in 2004, where he won two Premier Leaguetitles, a FA Cup, and two League Cupsin his three seasons at the club, before he departed in 2007 amid reports of disagreements with club owner Roman Abramovich.[5]

    In 2008, Mourinho joined Italian clubInter Milan, where he won the Serie Atitle in his first season. In 2010, he led Inter Milan to a European treble of Serie A, Coppa Italia, and the UEFA Champions League; the first time an Italian club has achieved this. This made him one of five coaches to have won the European Cup with two different clubs,[6] and later that year, earned him the first FIFA World Coach of the Year award.[7] Mourinho then signed with Real Madrid, where he wonLa Liga with a record points tally, becoming the fifth coach to have won league titles in four countries.[8][9] He also won a Copa del Rey and aSupercopa de Espana. Mourinho left Madrid in 2013 to rejoin Chelsea, where he won another league title and League Cup, but was dismissed in 2015 after a poor run of results.[10] Under a year later, Mourinho was appointed at rival club Manchester United; he won theUEFA Europa League, League Cup andFA Community Shield in his first seasonbefore being dismissed in 2018.[11][12] In 2019, he signed with Tottenham Hotspur.

    He was named Portuguese Coach of the Century by the Portuguese Football Federation (FPF) in 2015,[13] and was the first coach to spend more than £1 billion on transfers.[14] Due to his tactical knowledge, charismatic and controversial personality, and what his opponents regard as an emphasis on getting results over playing beautiful football, he has drawn comparisons, by both admirers and critics, with Argentine manager Helenio Herrera.[15][16]
     
  17. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Got a tad off topic there.
    Never mind back to: How VAR is (F'kn up our game) er (bringing football into the 21st century)
     
  18. Samarkand

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    May 28, 2001
    How about a new forum rule to test the sanity, resolve and bona fides of all newbies? They must post 10 times here before they can post in any other threads.

    It would certainly sort out the men from the, ummm, not men.
     
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  19. bayred

    bayred Member+

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    May 28, 2018
    I Love VAR. I Hate VAR. The Very VARbose Thread
     
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  20. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    Yet again a linesman ********s up an onside call ruling out a goal in Newcastle match.
    Shelvey went through after a flicked on header puts him 1v1 with keeper.
    He scored to lock up the 3 points, and VAR corrected the obvious mistake.
     
  21. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    VAR check in Arse-BHA.
    Looping header by Lacazette is just out of reach of keeper and dips into the upper corner of far post.
    Kola was crashing in from an offside position, doesn't look like keeper would have save it regardless.
    Seems like no evidence for clear and obvious error AFAIC.
     
  22. EruditeHobo

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    Linesman ********s up an offside call in Arse-BHA.
    Technically this is correct for VAR as they're supposed to let the play go on if it's "close", and allow VAR to decide.
    VAR fixes it, no goal due to Luiz offside by a yard or so.
    Still 1-1.
     
  23. newterp

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    yeah Luiz was miles offside. if that hadn't been corrected it would have been a travesty.
     
  24. CB-West

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    Meanwhile in the other game today...Jonjo Shelvey scores a goal after the linesman calls offside and Sheffield players stop...but the ref doesn’t blow the whistle...and VAR allows the goal...
     
  25. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    That’s the right call, the linesman completely ********ed up.
     

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