How many points do we need for a playoff spot ?

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  1. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

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    To be honest a well booked Lilith Fair has more thrills than either.
     
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  2. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Moderator
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    Jan 15, 2002
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    Yes, they were never declared toast. The toast threads have only been around for 10 years or so.
     
  3. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
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    I like to think that anything that happened during the ShootOut era is invalid, anyway.
     
  4. zman31

    zman31 Member+

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    Porter started off by saying he intended to tweak the 3G system to bring a bit more press and direct play. I know we haven't had exactly a MLS quality group of players for long stretches this season, but I'm hopeful we can see a bit more of that. Some bite in the middle, use our new speed on the right wing a tad more. I love that Jesse Marcsh video of him describing the RB press with the goal to win the ball high, have the first pass always, ALWAYS go forward. Then they show 3 highlights of goals from RB senior, RB 2 and RB academy all doing exactly that.

    I'd like to see some tactical philosophy shown on the field at some point.
     
  5. TRUJDUB

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    9th place is looking responsable. We could beat San José and Cincinnati and still not catch up to that last playoff spot .

    But building for next year is easier with wins
     
  6. DGA57v2

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    Apr 1, 2019
    We did our part and got 3 but Montreal, New England and Toronto did as well. Still 9 back with 10 games to go (could be 11 if New England and Toronto win their game in hand). But we're not dead yet...
     
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  7. TyphonInc

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    You know for a team that took 2 months off, the Crew is not in a hopeless situation. They got 7 points in their last three games, if they can replicate that (7 points in the next three) I may start running scenarios that would allow them to be in the playoffs.

    But as someone else pointed out, we really need two teams (in playoff consideration) collapse down the stretch for us to have a realistic chance.
     
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  8. hangthadj

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    Doesn’t help either that the three teams directly ahead of us in the standings have a game in hand, and that one is coached by Bruce Arena and has been very good for about two months now instead of pretty okay for 3 games.
     
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  9. Minnman

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    Feb 11, 2000
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    Considering the misery of this season, if we can leapfrog Chicago and Orlando to finish in 9th, I'd be satisfied. Just doing that will require us to finish out the season in good form, which would make the last ten games enjoyable to watch and give us some real confidence and momentum going into 2020.
     
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  10. TrueCrew

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    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
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    Yep. That was a nice road win. But we are going to need some more.

    Have to get AT LEAST 18 pts from these last 10 games (42 points), probably 21 (45 points).

    At SJ may be the toughest game left on our schedule (or at NYC, or at ATL). Bright side is if we win, we could really go on a nice little run:

    7/17: at Chicago; 2-2 draw
    7/20: Montreal; 2-1 win
    7/27: at NYRB; 3-2 win
    8/3: at SJ
    8/10: Cincy
    8/17: Toronto
    8/21: at NYC
    8/25: at Cincy
    8/31: Fire

    Then we get 2 weeks off before the final stretch, which is a bit tougher (at ATL, at Van, Philly, at TFC).
     
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  11. TrueCrew

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    Dec 22, 2003
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    We just have to hope 1 team in PO contention fades a bit. NE does not fit the bill. I'd look at MTL, NYRB, or DC. We have two games left with TFC, win both and we nearly catch them.

    Still an extreme longshot. Another road win and a win vs Cincy and I will start to really believe.
     
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  12. TRUJDUB

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    Nov 22, 2015
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    Columbus @ San José- a draw might not be good enough at this point but a loss would be devastating

    FC Dallas @ Orlando - We need a draw just to tie Orlando in the standings to move up one spot

    Chicago @ Houston - we need Dynamo to win which should happen to pass Chicago in the standings

    Catching the following teams will be very difficult:But we need to pass 2 of these teams to get the 7th spot

    NYRB - we dont play these three teams anymore
    New England
    Montreal

    Toronto - we play them twice so that helps


    Back to this weeks schedule :

    Toronto @nyrb - we need a draw

    LAFC@ NE- if anyone can beat them at home maybe it’s LA but a draw would be just fine

    Montreal @ Colorado - Lets hope Kamara can help us out with a win, even a draw would be ok

    Teams we are not likely to catch :
    Philadelphia, NYCFC ( bunch of games in hand )
    Atlanta , DC

    NYCFC @ RSL- want a RSL win
    Philadelphia @ DC ( Sunday 8/4) - we need the Union to win or a draw

    LAG @ Atlanta - Lets go Zaltan

    Bottom line we have to beat San Jose because we’re behind and we can not lose anymore games this season. We need lots o
     
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  13. TrueCrew

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    Dec 22, 2003
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    Cool post, and I am not a mod, but why don't we continue in the PTS for PO thread.

    And, we do not need to jump Chicago, we already have.
     
  14. Kyle Crew

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    Feb 23, 2013
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    If I close this thread, I get yelled out for doing so. If I leave it, people tell me to merge it.

    I'd possibly suggest people should check to see if said topics already have threads, but then people tell me to quit being a forum nazi mod stupidface and that this is 'murica and that they can say what they want!!!

    So whatever..... it's just getting left.
     
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  15. Ch(Elsey)

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    May 2, 2003
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    At least we tell you that sort of stuff to your face.
     
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  16. TrueCrew

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    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
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    Continuing TRUJDUB's thoughts on next week-end:

    1) Crew (24 pts) at SJ. Tough one. Great turnaround for SJ this year. We have 10 games left. Need 18 points (min). Maybe more. Cannot affird to drop points in more than 3-4. This is one of our toughest games left (at NYC midweek, at ATL). But some of the teams we are chasing also face tough games (NE hosts LAFC, TFC at NYRB). Save for a late season trip to last place Vancouver, this is our last game vs the west.

    2) ORL (26 pts) v DAL (33 pts). We are 2 points behind Orlando, equal on wins with a worse GD, and they have a game in hand. We win and FCD wins is the only way we climb into 9th after this week.

    3) TFC (8th, 32 pts). At NYRB (34 pts). Both have a GIH on us. Draw, NY win, TFC win are my preferred outcomes. But a chance to gain on someone.

    4) NE (7th, 33 pts). Hosts LAFC (49 points). Hopefully LAFC spanks them. NE has a game in hand on us.

    5) MTL (6th, 33 pts). At Colorado (20 pts). Rapids are bad but tough at home. MTL was stumbling before spanking Philly. Piatti back and a stellar 2 goal debut from a summer signing. No GIH for MTL.

    6) DC (3rd, 36 pts, no GIH). Hosts Philly (1st, 39 pts). Lets hope Philly bounces back. DC is probably out of range, but so too is everyone save Orlando.

    If we are going to make a run, I am not worried about Chicago, they will be a non-factor. Plus, we have them at home at the end of the month. Take care of business there. Still, hope for Houston to help us.
     
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  17. Kyle Crew

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    Feb 23, 2013
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    Meh, as long as people aren't douchebags and causing fights all over the place or starting tons of shit threads, I don't really care.
     
  18. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
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    Aug 19, 2008
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    Seems to me that we now have two parallel conversations happening in two threads. I'd be happy to merge the threads if trujdub agrees.
     
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  19. DGA57v2

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    Apr 1, 2019
    @TrueCrew you left out NYCFC who is 4th with 35 points and plays at RSL next week. Obviously we'd be rooting for a RSL win.
     
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  20. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
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    Started by the same person!

    Of course they should be merged.
     
  21. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
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    Yeah I’m fine with merging but this was more focused on the games this week . So it doesn’t matter either way.

    We are tied on points with Chicago so let’s pass them not rely on tiebreaker because Garner might make a new rule and it would not favor us right ?
     
  22. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
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    No need to start a new thread every few days for the next round of games.

    I know some people here have a real persecution complex, but MLS isn't going to change the official tie-breaker rules two-thirds of the way through the season. (Not that the difference between 10th and 11th matters for jack squat anyways.)

    Now, if they hadn't even bothered to announce them yet, and just wanted to wait until they saw how things were shaping up before actually finalizing the rules, that'd be another thing entirely. I think MLS has been very late to announce the playoff rules some years.
     
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  23. Kyle Crew

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    Feb 23, 2013
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    Merged. Come at me bros.
     
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  24. Draghignazzo

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    Stupidface.
     
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  25. TRUJDUB

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    #75 TRUJDUB, Jul 28, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2019
    Well we have our work cut out I think we can manage a draw at San Jose because i didn’t realize just how good they have been. If we can win that really says a lot about us .

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