How long would it take for MLS top clubs to be on par with Liga MX top clubs under UEFA break-even?

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How long would it take for MLS top clubs to be on par with Liga MX top clubs under UEFA break-even?

  1. 2 years or less

    2 vote(s)
    10.5%
  2. 3 years

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  3. 4 years

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  4. 5 years

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%
  5. 6 years

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. 7 years or more

    12 vote(s)
    63.2%
  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go to the thread dumbass. Most of the posts are not Mexico related. We also don't have a stickied Meet El Tri thread. These are facts. You're the one being delusional here
     
  2. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol stupid page 64 has mexico related stuff its everywhere its obvious you're just turning a blind eye
    well go ahead and make one if it makes you feel any better since you can't seem to shut up about mexico. these are facts as well. and the meet the usmnt thread is for funny nad pictures
     
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  3. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except the entire last page has nothing to do with Mexico....

    We don't make many Mexico specific threads in our forum. We're not obsessed

    Who cares if it's just a picture thread. It's a stickied thread dedicated to us
     
  4. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  5. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    loooooool deflecting at its finest proved you wrong and made you my b1tch move along now
     
  6. diegolin89

    diegolin89 Member+

    Jul 13, 2008
    Still counts. You have to accept that Mexico is a BIG factor in the US Soccer world picture. On the other hand, the US is not that relevant to the futbol scene IN Mexico, actually futbol fans in Mexico have more rivalry smack towards Honduras and El Salvador for example, due to the treatment the Mexican NT gets there and also sharing the same language.

    Hate to break it to you, but most futbol fans in Mexico acknowledge the US is a good team and the main futbol rival in the region, but just don't care about them much.

    I know you were talking about BigSoccer posters (mexican-americans), where the US-Mexico rivalry is relevant, but still had to explain this.

    Ironically BigSoccer rivalries are almost the exact opposite as rivalries in Mexican sites and media, the USMNT is respected and most of the Central American teams are disrespected in Mexico, while here on BigSoccer it is usually the other way.
     
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  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you don't have the mental capacity to see the difference between a thread coming up once every 6 months buried under about 10 pages and 2 of the most popular threads on your forum remaining active after years, your not worth talking to
     
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  8. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    yawn you said "we don't have specific mexico threads" now you're changing your story to them not being popular enough at least you tried move along kiddo
     
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  9. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We don't have long running ones. I've never claimed we don't talk about Mexico, the point is,we're more popular on your thread than you are on ours
     
  10. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    you guys have quadruple the amount than we do but mods shut them down because most of them can't keep it football related or someone else makes one. false, we're more popular on your thread than you are on ours
     
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  11. Majin

    Majin Member+

    Arsenal
    Mexico
    May 7, 2013
    Zacatecas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    funny how you post in most of them as well lol obsessed much
     
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  12. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    I don't know how long it would take but so long as the MLS teams have mediocre youth development, that's going to affect their ability to catch up long term.

    (It feels great to support a team with a powerful youth system, you guys are missing out :thumbsup:)
     
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  13. NoeMH

    NoeMH New Member

    Apr 28, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    It's definitely going to be 10+ years, in my opinion. The MLS teams have mediocre youth teams and not to mention that youth players don't seem to make it into the first team. Not to mention that the quality of various players are atrocious and are on par with the average Liga de Ascenso player or lower or Central American leagues. Not to mention that the league is starting to be known as a retirement league as players like Kaka chose to make millions and play in a league where the quality from the top 2-4 teams is vastly higher from the rest than make millions in a league where the 14th placed team is only a few points away from 6th or 5th place and still has a chance to get into playoffs. Not to mention that players also have to try in Mexico. Players like Santiago Solari have had it hard simply because they thought the league was going to be a walk in the park but no. The fact that Cruz Azul trashed one of the top teams in the MLS at the CONCACAF champions League shows how much the league needs to be on par with Mexico. The league has definitely grown but it's still yet to be as competitive as Mexico's. Even Donovan has stated that football in US is yet to grow a lot.
     
  14. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Answer to OP's question is when MLS gets some real roster depth. I believe the MLS players (on the better teams) can match Lixa MX for about the first eight to ten players. However, MLS quality of player falls off a cliff after than. Mexican clubs are far deeper - they know they can bag a goal or two in the second half of any game played in Mexico whenever they need it.
     
  15. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    From the looks of it, it looks like its never going to happen lol
     
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  16. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    An unbiased Mexican, I'm sure:cool:.
     
  17. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    He exagerated a bit. But MLS teams can't look to buying their way to strong squads, not with the types of "stars" they're signing. The World Cup squads are an example of how little has come through MLS youth development. The US had 3 MLS-made players 25 or younger - Altidore, Gonzales, and Yedlin. Everyone went crazy for Yedlin. He's good but that's it (I think our younger guys Pizarro and Abella, both wingbacks, are better and they didn't make even the preliminary squad).

    Mexico had nine MX-made 25-or-younger players and five (if I remember correctly) saw some play time.

    This is kind of an analytically-lazy example but I don't think anyone doubts there's no comparison between the two leagues as far as player development.
     
  18. Overachiever

    Overachiever Member+

    Nov 18, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Thats just reality, its almost about to be a decade, and still nothing, I dont think their will be nothing lol
     
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  19. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Stuff like that happens. Mexico has a supposed golden generation a few years before clubs actually started working harder on their youth systems. As 0f now, if the MLS teams are improving their youth systems, it hasn't shown on the field yet. To be fair, the Americans do have a bit more competition for the national team with the German-Americans and other Americans who were formed abroad.
     
  20. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    What's beginning to go on in Mexico right now isn't a cycle. It's investing more work and time into youth development so that there aren't any of these age gaps in talent.

    If there was no clear reason why Mexico is pulling ahead in youth development I might agree with you, but you're wrong.
     
  21. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    There are many examples of clubs like that. A couple in Mexico even. Still, if the issue is how long until top MLS teams are on par with top MX teams, I'll say until they have consistent good youth development.

    You're not guaranteed first team success with good youth development, but the league as a whole won't improve without it.
     
  22. Albee

    Albee Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    How long until the Guatemala league surpasses the mls?
     
  23. vevo5

    vevo5 Member

    Nov 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #49 vevo5, Aug 14, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2014
    If MLS changed its rule to

    SALARY CAP = 1/3 of a club total REVENUE, then

    Seattle Sounders 48.0 mil revenue = $16 mil salary cap
    LA Galaxy 44.0 mil revenue = $14.5 mil salary cap
    Portland Timbers 39.1 mil revenue = $13 mil salary cap
    Houston Dynamo 32.6 mil revenue = $10.8 mil salary cap
    Toronto FC 30.9 mil revenue = $10.3 mil salary cap


    A club with EIGHT $1 million player will be much better than a club with 2 players at $5 million each, while the rest of the players are $110,000 on average.

    Good thing for Liga MX, MLS is too dumb to realize this. They want a $60 million club to be as good as a $15 million club by the many parity / level playing field restrictions. MLS policy is to HOLD BACK clubs that are successful while propping up clubs that are not.



     
  24. Albee

    Albee Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    Manchester United 7 - 0 Galaxy






























    Lmao
     

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