This is the revenue from 2012 (FORBES), 2014 number would be higher. SALARY CAP = 1/3 of a club total REVENUE, then Seattle Sounders 48.0 mil revenue = $16 mil salary cap LA Galaxy 44.0 mil revenue = $14.5 mil salary cap Portland Timbers 39.1 mil revenue = $13 mil salary cap Houston Dynamo 32.6 mil revenue = $10.8 mil salary cap Toronto FC 30.9 mil revenue = $10.3 mil salary cap Under this 33% of revenue as the salary cap, these clubs will be able to GROW. On the field success = bigger fanbase, higher attendance, more merchandise sales, higher sponsorship = more revenue = bigger salary cap = more on the field success. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Two can play that game. If you pay the average Liga MX $30,000,000 a year, does he become Messi? p.s. English Premier League is eating MLS lunch when it come to TV Ratings in the USA. http://www.socceramerica.com/article/60003/epl-broadcasts-up-23-percent-on-nbc-and-nbcsn.html The four weekend matches on NBCSN averaged 463,000 viewers, an increase of 30 percent from last year’s 356,000 average viewership for the four games on NBCSN. -- Sunday's Newcastle-Manchester City match on NBCSN averaged 514,000 viewers, making it the most-watched opening weekend match on cable in U.S. history, breaking the record of 476,000 viewers for the Arsenal-Sunderland match on ESPN in 2012. (As a matter of comparison, the two MLS games on NBCSN -- Real Salt Lake-Seattle and Houston-Philadelphia -- averaged 183,000 and 82,000, respectively.) MLS has the most ass-backward policy of any soccer league: a $15 million team can't be better than a $3.1 million team. Parity is at the core of every MLS policy. I wouldn't be surprised if Toronto FC is the WORST $15 million salaries soccer team in the world.
p.s. Liga MX must be thanking their lucky stars every single day that MLS owners #1, #2, #3 priority is PARITY, PARITY, PARITY. If MLS owners priority is 1) GROWTH 2) GROWTH 3) GROWTH, MLS would get rid of the idiotic DP Rule and install a salary cap based on a club revenue. MLS current system is designed to punish clubs that generate a lot of revenue. Is that a smart way to run a league?Most leagues reward clubs that generate a lot of revenue by allowing them to build on it, invest on it through better players. Would it make sense for the Premier League to hold back their top clubs and force clubs like Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool, Tottenham to be as good as QPR, Burley, Stoke, Crystal Palace, Hull, Swansea just for the sake of parity? If such a stupid system was installed, star players would flee. TV Revenue, attendance, sponsorship revenue would decrease significantly. Their competitiveness in Europe would take a severe hit. It doesn't make sense for the RICHEST soccer league in the world, but hey, it makes sense for MLS? pps: This post by Super does a good job explaining why the DP Ruling doesn't make sense for MLS. Worth reading into the insane thinking of MLS: I think my main beef with the MLS is the DP rule. It made sense when Beckham came out. But now it's just stupid. Again, the fact that Seattle could get themselves 8 $1 mil players instead of Dempsey is shocking. Imagine how good that Seattle team would be? A hell of a lot better than it is today, that's for sure. Same cost. Think about that. It's hard to justify the existence of such a system. When speaking to Europeans it is usually what they are the most shocked by. It's very Mickey Mouse to them. To me, the fact that Garber and Co. would prefer bringing in "stars" instead of greatly improving the league is seriously lacking in judgement. People aren't going to watch the MLS because Dempsey is playing. Maybe the first few games. But it's the quality of play that brings the masses to the game. Smaller clubs will survive. Just like in ANY other league. Let's stop trying to save the weak teams/markets by holding back the teams that could truly be GREAT in the international community (imagine Seattle, LA, New York, Toronto in the CCL if we had $20 mil teams - spread out on 11 players.. We'd truly be a frightening class of teams). Also, it's the big clubs that win their leagues respect. Not the average teams, or the parity of whatever. That's boring. People want the drama. The show. The big stars. The upsets when the little teams beat the big teams. ALL of this doesn't exist in the MLS. Let's get rid of the salary cap, put in place "don't spend beyond your means" rules in the league - and let's grow this league ================================== So how long do we hold back bigger clubs while we wait for Columbus to grow? They were averaging 14k attendance the year they won the league. Then 14k the year after. No difference AT ALL. That's the potential in that market. Maybe a little bit higher, but not much. So my question is: how long do we wait for them to become financially competitive to where we can allow other teams to live up to their potential? That's my point here. If we're waiting for the likes of Chivas and Columbus to grow, we'll be waiting a LONG time. Also, these markets are so weak that they can't handle a year or two of not winning. They have to win all the time to go anywhere. Columbus recorded their worst attendance numbers EVER in 2011 - 12k average. Meanwhile the league and bigger markets are held back in a very serious way. It's insanity! And it's anti-football. Imagine a 100 meter race with 10 guys, 6 of which go under 10 sec, 2 go under 12, and 2 go at about 20 seconds. For the sake of parity we strap 100 pounds to the backs of the fastest guys - and the result is a race with 10 guys running 100 meters at 20 seconds. There's a new winner almost every race. No one of them MUCH better, and no one MUCH worse. See what I mean? That's the MLS. It's madness - and everyone outside of the league can see it. We choose not to get the BEST possible football on the pitch. That's what I mean by madness!
LigaMx doesn't need to thank any lucky stars. Go ahead and pay your mediocre MLS players a higher salary. Go ahead and field a $300 million dollar MLS squad. Pay each player $20, 000,000 a year and then watch those same jack asses get pummeled in Concachampions. Or do you believe inflating an MLSers salary will turn him into a better footballer? Or do you plan on fielding a $300 million dollar over the hill european washed up ala Henry, Marquez, Lampard etc...starting 11? If so LigaMx would tax that as well.
Not sure if you've noticed, but the MLS isn't exactly the Premier League. Having the same model may not necessarily equate to the same results, especially when there is such a big difference in quality between the two leagues.
Nobody is stupid enough to think that this SALARY CAP = 1/3 of a club total REVENUE, then Seattle Sounders 48.0 mil revenue = $16 mil salary cap LA Galaxy 44.0 mil revenue = $14.5 mil salary cap Portland Timbers 39.1 mil revenue = $13 mil salary cap Houston Dynamo 32.6 mil revenue = $10.8 mil salary cap Toronto FC 30.9 mil revenue = $10.3 mil salary cap New York Red Bulls $28.1 mil = $9.37 mil salary cap Sporting Kansas City $27.7 mil = $9.23 mil salary cap would turn MLS into the Premiership where top clubs salary budget is 20 times bigger (something like this) Man City $300 mil Man Utd $280 mil Chelsea $250 mil Arsenal $220 mil The main purpose of the 33% salary cap is to allow clubs with the most potential to grow. On the field success = bigger fanbase, higher attendance, more merchandise sales, higher sponsorship = more revenue = bigger salary cap = more on the field success. Wash, rinse, repeat. Basically, MLS will focus on GROWTH GROWTH GROWTH instead of PARITY PARITY PARITY. This will allow MLS to close the gap with Liga MX. Closing the gap with the Premier League is a pipe dream. It's like saying Liga MX can be as good as La Liga by focusing on GROWTH GROWTH GROWTH. Not going to happen.
Money ain't going to change anything, just look at south america, they produce some of the best talent with little money lol
Wrong. Money will change a lot. The US has a lot of young guys (U23) that head overseas to play in mid-tier leagues. Money would keep the young potential talent from going over seas for a bigger pay check. If young guys like Gatt, Rubin, Agudelo and many other potential players stayed at home in the states then the competition for the spots in MLS would become stronger. Which intern will make the league stronger. To add to this with more money the league will bring in more overseas talent for the local guys to compete against... again this will make the league stronger. In the US youth athlete's look to Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey & even sports like Golf as sports to pursue, because that is where the money is made. MLS needs to get it's salaries close to the NFL level to draw more athletes into the player pool (the NFL average salary is the smallest compared to MLB and the NBA). The athletes in South America do not have the same competition for multiple sports as the US does. They can achieve developing talent with little money, because there is no alternative for the athletes. Money speaks in the US... it is naive to think otherwise. On top of that, MLS has yet to even hit critical mass (I define as a 28 team league) in the US. When MLS achieves this look out.
I think the top MLS clubs are already very close to the top Liga MX clubs. Liga MX is probably a bit deeper, but i dont think there is a gap between the top teams anymore. I think the Sounders and Galaxy for example could compete with any team from Liga MX.
Galaxy lost to a mediocre Xolos last year. What's makes you think they could compete with the tops teams in Mexico?
Its one game, I don't think one game necessarily should prove that they can't do it. Notice I say compete, they aren't necessarily going to be the better team and win 7/10 times or whatnot. I just think the Galaxy, along with the Sounders, Sporting KC etc. have the talent level that is needed to compete with the Liga MX top teams.
Liga MX has been eating MLS and EPL lunch for years in terms of TV ratings. Sometimes quality is not the only thing in the mind of fans.
Local player pool for sure. But more money would mean better foreign players. MLS has a 8 international player limit so even if the local talent remains weak the foreign talent would even things out. Then again IMO the league would fail under VEVO5 plans. So it is not a realistic scenario.
If there was some way to compare top teams in MLS VS. Top teams in liga MX. Dang I guess we will never know.
Well they aren't the favorites, but an MLS team could come out of the CCL league, and I wouldn't be shell shocked.
Liga MX is doing well on Univision and UniMas. Not surprised. I wonder what the rating for EPL would be on Univision and UniMas if they are in Spanish and both TV networks promote it? http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ding-ratings-in-first-month-of-action/293420/ Also, EPL on NBC do just as well as Liga MX on Univision despite the time difference. And Univision promote Liga MX way more than NBC promote EPL. We will see in the coming years which will do better.
Can you tell us why it will fail? Is it because 33% of revenue is too high a salary cap? SALARY CAP = 1/3 of a club total REVENUE, then Seattle Sounders 48.0 mil revenue = $16 mil salary cap LA Galaxy 44.0 mil revenue = $14.5 mil salary cap Portland Timbers 39.1 mil revenue = $13 mil salary cap Houston Dynamo 32.6 mil revenue = $10.8 mil salary cap Toronto FC 30.9 mil revenue = $10.3 mil salary cap New York Red Bulls $28.1 mil = $9.37 mil salary cap Sporting Kansas City $27.7 mil = $9.23 mil salary cap In 2015, MLS will have a $90 million a year TV deal that will be shared equally among all clubs (after the USMNT takes their cut). So financially, things are looking up. MLS also shared 100% of national sponsorship and 30% of ticket revenues. If a club owned by billionaires (most if not all MLS owners are billionaires) go bankrupt because 33% is TOO HIGH of a salary cap, MLS is in more trouble than I thought.
1. This does not include playoff ratings, that is the money maker for TV networks that carry Liga MX. 2. Even comparing it to the highest opening week ever, liga MX still comes on top. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...ng-weekend-of-premier-league-coverage/294727/ EPL does pretty good in Telemundo. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...-united-delivers-344000-total-viewers/297936/