How long until USL is D2 / Who will be D3?

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by Matthew Johnson, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NPSL has a lot of work to do if they expect to make a jump to D3. Most of their teams are fly by night organizations playing out of high school stadiums on shoestring budgets with local players they picked up off the street or college players on break.
     
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  2. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In that he passes over it like it is nothing? :) I get the feeling that it didn't fit into his narrative, so he just glossed over it. *shrug* The article is a puff piece, imho. Particularly given that the current question isn't "can NASL survive and thrive as a D3 league", but whether they can survive at all and, it would appear, that ship has sailed as well.
     
  4. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Less than two.

    Edit: Sorry, more like two-and-a-half.
     
  5. matbluvenger

    matbluvenger Member+

    Reno 1868
    United States
    Aug 2, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the news that was dropped less than two hours ago, I'd give it about -0.00023 years
     
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  6. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I was measuring from the time the question was asked.
     
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  7. matbluvenger

    matbluvenger Member+

    Reno 1868
    United States
    Aug 2, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I figured. I was just continuing on with the silliness
     
  8. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So now USL is D2... does PDL get bumped to D 3 by default or do we not technically have a D3?
     
  9. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    No D-III.
     
  10. matbluvenger

    matbluvenger Member+

    Reno 1868
    United States
    Aug 2, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're leaving the spot open for the next time NASL flounders
     
  11. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    D1, D2, and D3 are for professional leagues. The standards for those leagues include the teams being professional. The PDL and NPSL are not professional so they cannot be D3. There are some semi-pro leagues that could apply to be D3 but none meet the standards.
     
  12. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    kind of strange. I get the technicalities of sanctioning but it's kind of silly to have tiers of divisions but a hole where a D3 would be.

    USSF really punted on this one. Their needs to be a restructuring of the leagues and reorganization of clubs throughought. Lots of PDL teams like Fresno could probably operate as D3, lots of teams in current USL should probably stay in D3, etc
     
  13. 4four4

    4four4 Member+

    Nov 13, 2013
    Land of 10,000 Lakes
    Since, we don't have an American open system I could give two cents about who is considered D2, D3, D4, and D5. Sorry it really doesn't make a difference where everybody ends up at the end of the day.
     
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  14. matbluvenger

    matbluvenger Member+

    Reno 1868
    United States
    Aug 2, 2010
    Reno, NV
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It matters for new investors and sponsors
     
  15. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well there's not really a hole. We only have D1, D2 and D3. There's nothing below D3 as far as sanctioning goes so all we have is no bottom of the pyramid right now.
     
  16. Matthew Johnson

    Sep 6, 2013
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
  17. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    If they're smart, they'll roll out region by region, only ever meeting in the playoffs as they add more regions. The minimum number of teams needed in a D3 for USSF sanctioning is 8, and there is no timezone requirement. They could launch a D3 in the upper-midwest/Great Lakes, then a new "conference" in the Northeast, Southeast, Southwest/Texas, and Pacific/Northwest as they line-up clusters of teams ready to launch together. Seems far more viable than trying to spring 20+ teams into existence in a year.
     
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  18. Matthew Johnson

    Sep 6, 2013
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    D3 standards still requires a principal owner to have an individual net worth of at least ten million US dollars. That seems excessive to me.
     
  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How so? Operating expenses for a USL team started at $1 million a year with losses of about half that.. Do you really want a person that can't absorb those loses for an extended period being the owner of the team?
     
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  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You could have a requirement for group of owners rather than a single individual.
     

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