How far will the Mexican clubs go in Libertadores ?? [R]

Re: How far will the Mexican clubs go in Libertadores ??

I'm gonna ask the same question but in reverse. Which Mexican club will be the first to cry and scream foul play (read: get eliminated because they suck)?

Personally, I see Colo Colo advancing. If not, Pumas is the first to go. Tigres is the less sucky of the three in my opinion, round of 16 for them.

 

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They won't make it to quarterfinals

 

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LOL!!!!! I almost fell out of my chair laughing!!

 

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tigres tiene buena banca para aguantar 2 torneos?

si les falla el portero o el negrito defensa o el argentino que hace goles que pueden hacer en copa?

 

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I was reading recently something someone else (other forum) posted about Mexican/South American Teams, and he was talking about how Mexican teams are buying players from South America left and right, and that yes it was a matter of time a Mexican team would win the cup. But he was also talking about how much south american teams in general have dropped their level, because they keep selling players to Mexico and Europe.

So its all relative, Mexican teams seem to be improving, while S.A. keep dropping their level because of the constant selling of their players, There are some exceptions, but most clubs aren't the same clubs from 2005.

When will this debate end? Who knows, a lot of emotions are involved here, Mexicans will say they are better, we will say they are not........One thing is for certain, globalization is certainly changing the fútbol scene.

 

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Yeah, probably Mexican't clubs have better roster$$$ right now, but as a whole, which region has the better players? See how many naturalized guys they're calling to their "Tri" and you've got your answer.

Of course someone will come and talk how Chivas reached the semis with all Mexicans. Semi in which they were ass raped by Paranaense, who were ass raped as well by Sao Paulo in the final.

And please stop mentioning the Confederations Cup, if you want to blame someone, blame your own Federation and your national coach.

 

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Please everyone knows that Chivas team had 4 or 5 starters missing for that game, because they were playing for El Tri. That team had what it takes to win it all. No excuses, but to mention the ass raping and not the call-up factor is a bit misleading.

 

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Here we go again.

Chivas played with their starters in the second leg at home and still they couldn't win. That Paranaense was just a better futbol team.

 

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What do you mean Starting to make an impact? Mexicans are going on their 9th year in the Copa Liberatodores. Paraguay and Colombia have won the Tournament since than. I don't really care if a Mexican club wins it.. So what? Just the fact the ALL of our best talents play in Europe and mexico still has a tough time winning any tournament is telling you something. I mean seriously, mexico expects to come down and improve their futbol against us but the fact is that you are playing against alot of youth and players that are good but nothing special. Mexico have all their best players plus very good foreigners, some even are naturalized.. I'm shocked mexico hasn't won it yet.

 

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Yeah, foreigners adapt, thrive, become team leaders and get called to the Mexican national team.

Oh, and have you noticed that the only Mexican league veterans who succeed in Europe are Southamericans? Pizzi and Camoranesi anyone? Marquez is just an oddity, if you don't believe me ask Blanco, Torrado, Palencia, Borgetti, etc.

 

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viste el river de ayer?

fueron puros PIBES!

 

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Yeah, and some other colombian kid that made his debut with River. How many colombians does River have?

 

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I didn't say I was rooting for a Mexican Club. Its just a fact that Mexican haven't won. What more do you need? Brazilian and Argentines great footballers don't even play in our leagues. All those player you mentioned are on their last gasp. Our players don't peak in our leagues. They peak in Europe. It's a straight fact. How many players do we have in Europe? Over 100? Enough to fill at least 7 full squad.. WOW is right!!

 

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What are you doing watching our games? I personally can't stomach to watch Mexican futbol. I tried once for 5 minutes.. once.. My god!

 

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Its horrible.. You call that football? I'm dead serious.. I can't watch it. I can watch Colombian, Brazilian and the main league in Europe but I can't sit down and watch a 90 minute game between two mexican clubs. Toluca needs to pay Gallego another million because That clubs has nothing on Argentine clubs that gallego has coached.. No tactical or technical discipline what so ever..My god.. Why would anyone from Argentina, Brazil or Colombia watch mexican futbol? You have a better chance at a european sitting down and watching your futbol..

 

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do you mean that you donot look for chelito and peryra games with choronta Restrepo in +axul? I do! Now there is a kid in monterrey I will like to follow his development near Cholo Navia. Rodallega from la sub20.


peruytu: colombia has Juancarlos Toja and radamel Garcia from la sub20 with river, plus patiño (former dept cali)
boca also had fredy guarin from la sub20, playing his second clasico de verano (preseason dude...preseason) next to el bogotano Vargas.