Home-Grown Players

Discussion in 'MLS: Youth & Development' started by Jahinho_Guerro, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. MARCH_

    MARCH_ Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What
     
  2. JayDelight729

    JayDelight729 Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Section 101
    MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    Sort of along the lines of DMN's Yanks Abroad tracking in the YA Boards, I think it is time to have a dedicated tracking system of all the MLS Homegrown / Academy signings.

    Specifically, tracking the following:

    Date the player is officially signed by each MLS club
    Brief bio on each players background
    Tracking their play in MLS
    Any other relevant statistics

    I may evolve this into a basic blog as well to make it more permanent.

    The evolution of the academies is the single most impactful thing in Major League Soccer since the idea of Soccer Specific Stadiums (SSS). And I feel there is a void in tracking all of the homegrowns to better understand how successful they have been and will become.

    Thoughts/ideas???
     
  3. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    These are all the signings I was able to find.

    Chicago Fire

    Aug-10 Victor Pineda, M

    Chivas USA (some are debatable since they preceded the rule)
    Jul-07 Jorge Flores, M
    Mar-08 Gerson Mayen, M/D
    May-09 Cesar Zamora, M
    Mar-10 Carlos Borja, D
    Aug-10 Bryan De La Fuente, M

    Colorado Rapids
    Aug-10 David Armstrong, M

    Columbus Crew
    - none

    FC Dallas

    Sep-09 Bryan Leyva, M
    Jul-10 Fernandez Moises, D
    Jul-10 Victor Ulloa, D
    Jul-10 Ruben Luna, F
    Jan-11 Jonathan Top, F

    DC United
    Sep-09 Bill Hamid, GK
    Aug-10 Conor Shanosky, M
    Mar-10 Andy Najar, M
    Dec-10 Ethan White, D

    Houston Dynamo
    Feb-09 Tyler Deric, GK
    Mar-10 Navas Cobo, M
    Jan-11 Josue Soto, M
    Jan-11 Alex Dixon, F

    Sporting Kansas City
    Aug-10 Jonathan Kempin, GK

    LA Galaxy

    Nov-08 Tristan Bowen, F - traded to Chivas USA

    New England Revolution
    Nov-10 Diego Fagundez, M/F

    New York Red Bulls
    Sep-09 Giorgi Chirgadze, F
    Mar-10 Juan Agudelo, F
    Jan-11 Matt Kassel, M (hasn't been announced yet, so maybe this is premature)

    Philadelphia Union
    Dec-10 Zach Pfeffer, M

    Portland Timbers - none

    Real Salt Lake - none

    San Jose Earthquakes - none

    Seattle Sounders - none

    Toronto FC
    Aug-10 Doneil Henry, D
    Sep-10 Nicholas Lindsay, F

    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Nov-10 Phillippe Davies, D/M
     
  4. JayDelight729

    JayDelight729 Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Section 101
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    Much appreciated with this information... I forgot about a few of the newer signings that haven't even seen a training camp, nevermind a game yet.

    Gives me a good starting point for building out the website. Plan is to build short bios on each player. Once the season starts, I'll do a weekly tracking recap that will help show each player's progress as the season moves on.

    Also plan to be in contact with each of the FO's to get quotes from homegrown players and the FO's.

    The homegrown initiative is the most important endeavor MLS has instituted since the Soccer Specific Stadium. And it's something I feel deserves to be tracked.
     
  5. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
  6. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    So, in terms of milestones:

    First to score in MLS: Bowen?
    First to score in Playoffs: TBD
    First to play in MLS Cup: TBD
    First to score in MLS Cup: TBD

    First international cap: Juan Agudelo
    First international goal: Juan Agudeo

    First to win match as GK: Bill Hamid
    First to win MLS ROY: Andy Najar

    other milestones?
     
  7. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    I know Agudelo got an assist in the playoffs. Was it the first?
     
  8. Jahinho_Guerro

    Apr 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  9. Jahinho_Guerro

    Apr 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Chicago Fire
    Victor Pineda (Chicago)

    DC United
    Bill Hamid (DC)
    Andy Najar (DC)
    Conor Shanosky (DC)
    Ethan White (DC)

    Sporting Kansas City Wizards
    Jonathan Kempin (Kansas City)

    New England Revolution
    Diego Fagundez (New England)

    Toronto FC
    Doneil Henry (Toronto)
    Nicholas Lindsay (Toronto)

    New York Red Bulls
    Juan Agudelo (New York)
    Giorgi Chirgadze (New York)
    Matthew Kassel (New York)

    Colorado Rapids
    Davy Armstrong (Colorado)

    FC Dallas
    Moises Hernandez (Dallas)
    Victor Ulloa (Dallas)
    Bryan Leyva (Dallas)
    Ruben Luna (Dallas)
    Jonathan Top (Dallas)

    Houston Dynamo
    Tyler Deric (Houston)
    Francisco Navas Cobo (Houston)
    Alex Dixon (Houston)
    Josue Soto (Houston)

    Chivas USA
    Jorge Flores
    Gerson Mayen
    Bryan de la Fuente (Chivas USA)
    Cesar Zamora (Chivas USA)

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Tristan Bowen (Los Angeles/ now with Chivas USA)

    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Philippe Davies (Vancouver)

    Philadelphia Union
    Zach Pfeffer (Philadelphia)
     
  10. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    I would add:

    first assists
    first clean sheet
    first mls all-star
    first mls first-x1
    first league mvp

    you could probably go on and on, but those seem to make sense to add.
     
  11. Goalazzo

    Goalazzo New Member

    Jan 5, 2011
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Is being identified as a home-grown player a two way thing - a club identifies a player as a home-grown talent, the player agrees to the designation and signs something? What if a player doesn't agree?

    Or are there different categories of home-grown talent? It seems there is a list of players that have come through a club's DAP who are identified in order to establish future rights vis-a-vis the club's ability to sign the player without having to go through the MLS draft. But then there are DAP players who are "signed", but are still playing in DAP? And then, during the recent MLS draft there were players who were signed as home-grown talents?

    I'm confused?
     
  12. JayDelight729

    JayDelight729 Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Section 101
    Flores was brought in prior to the homegrown initiative... therefore does not qualify as a homegrown player.
     
  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    First to win MLS Cup: Davy Armstrong
     
  14. JayDelight729

    JayDelight729 Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Section 101
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    I setup a domain for this project... homegrownplayers.com

    Hopefully by the end of the week, I can start uploading the important information to get an accurate list going of all the homegrown's in MLS.

    And to start tracking their progress.
     
  15. Jahinho_Guerro

    Apr 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    your certainly right, however i forgot to add a side note indicating that he was part of the Chivas USA academy team, likewise for Gerson Mayen
     
  16. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    Am I the only one who thinks of something else whenever he reads "homegrown?"

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Jahinho_Guerro

    Apr 17, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    now this depends on if he is referring to a starter or reserve.....he wasn't even dressed, or amongst the game day roster...

    not hating or anything, but it is questionable because he didn't do anything
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    He was present on the trophy platform (As was the whole team) and received a winners medal I believe. He was not on the 18-man game day squad though.
     
  19. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
  20. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. JayDelight729

    JayDelight729 Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Section 101
    If anyone has any local knowledge of academies in the different MLS markets, it would be very much appreciated.

    At this point looking for people to put together:

    Brief bios on each of the homegrown players
    Features / Interviews with homegrown players
    Anyone with experience using Joomla (I'm using that as the CMS for the website)

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    This is a completely free website. I'm not putting this together for any monetary purpose. I feel the academy development is the most important thing in Major League Soccer today and the forseeable future.

    I think there is a void in the American soccer marketplace covering the homegrown players and the overall success of the initiative since it was implemented in 2008.

    I want this to be a completely educational website and a resource for those that want to follow the future stars of American soccer.
     
  22. bwidell

    bwidell Member+

    Apr 19, 2005
    Manchester, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: MLS Home Grown Player Tracking / History

    He didn't make a single appearance over the course of the season, though.
     
  23. JayDelight729

    JayDelight729 Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Section 101
    This is the format I'm planning to use for the database...

    Thoughts / feedback much is appreciated.

    Tristan Bowen
     
  24. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks good to me. Maybe a career stats box by year?

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/stats has league and playoff stats by player by year.

    Reserve league and U.S. open cup stuff would probably take a lot more legwork though.
     

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