Hindsight isn't 2020 - The 2019-20 Season Thread [R]

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  1. Viscaelbarca

    Viscaelbarca Moderator
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    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 31, 2007
    MELT01
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    New season Thread;

    Click here for previous season thread...
     
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  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
  3. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Calendario

    JULY 2019
    Tue 23: pre-season (Tokyo/Saitama) Chelsea
    Sat 27: pre-season (A) Vissel Kobe

    AUGUST 2019
    midweek 30-1: --
    Sun 4: Gamper (H) Arsenal 21:15
    Wed 7: pre-season (Miami) Napoli
    Sun 11: pre-season (Ann Arbor) Napoli
    midweek 13-15: --
    Fri 16: J1 (A) Athletic Bilbao 21:00
    midweek 20-22: --
    Sun 25: J2 (H) Betis 21:00
    Thur 29: UCL group stage draw
    Sat 31: J3 (A) Osasuna 17:00

    SEPTEMBER 2019
    midweek 3-4: --
    weekend 5-7: FIFA Calendar
    midweek 8-10: FIFA Calendar
    Sat 14: J4 (H) Valencia
    midweek 17-19: UCL-M1
    weekend 21-22: J5 (A) Granada
    midweek 24-26: J6 (H) Villarreal
    Sat 28: J7 (A) Getafe

    OCTOBER 2019
    midweek 1-3: UCL-M2
    weekend 5-6: J8 (H) Sevilla
    midweek 8-9: --
    weekend 10-12: FIFA Calendar
    midweek 13-15: FIFA Calendar
    Sat 19: J9 (A) Eibar
    midweek 22-24: UCL-M3
    weekend 26-27: J10 (H) Real Madrid
    midweek 29-31: J11 (H) Valladolid

    NOVEMBER 2019
    Sat 2: J12 (A) Levante
    midweek 5-7: UCL-M4
    weekend 9-10: J13 (H) Celta
    midweek 12-13: --
    weekend 14-16: FIFA Calendar
    midweek 17-19: FIFA Calendar
    Sat 23: J14 (A) Leganés
    midweek 26-28: UCL-M5
    weekend 30-1: J15 (A) Atlético Madrid

    DECEMBER 2019
    midweek 3-5: --
    Sat 7: J16 (H) Mallorca
    midweek 10-12: UCL-M6
    weekend 14-15: J17 (A) Real Sociedad
    Mon 16: UCL Round of 16 draw
    midweek 17-19: CdR-1R (Barca not involved)
    weekend 21-22: J18 (H) Alavés
    midweek 24-26: --
    weekend 28-29: --

    JANUARY 2020
    midweek 31-2: --
    weekend 4-5: J19 (A) Espanyol
    midweek 7-9: ScE-Sf (Valencia, Barcelona, Atlético Madrid, Real Madrid)
    weekend 11-12: CdR-2R (Barca not involved) / ScE-F
    midweek 14-16: --
    weekend 18-19: J20 (H) Granada
    midweek 21-23: CdR-3R (Barca enter tournament)
    weekend 25-26: J21 (A) Valencia
    midweek 28-30: CdR-Octavos

    FEBRUARY 2020
    weekend 1-2: J22 (H) Levante
    midweek 4-6: CdR-Qf
    weekend 8-9: J23 (A) Betis
    midweek 11-13: CdR-Sf1
    weekend 15-16: J24 (H) Getafe
    midweek 18-20: UCL-2R1
    weekend 22-23: J25 (H) Eibar
    midweek 25-27: UCL-2R1

    MARCH 2020
    weekend 29-1: J26 (A) Real Madrid
    midweek 3-5: CdR-Sf2
    weekend 7-8: J27 (H) Real Sociedad
    midweek 10-12: UCL-2R2
    weekend 14-15: J28 (A) Mallorca
    midweek 17-19: UCL-2R2
    Fri 20: UCL Qf/Sf draw
    weekend 21-22: J29 (H) Leganés
    midweek 24-25:
    weekend 26-28: FIFA Calendar
    midweek 29-31: FIFA Calendar

    APRIL 2020
    weekend 4-5: J30 (A) Sevilla
    midweek 7-9: UCL-Qf1
    weekend 11-12: J31 (H) Atheltic Bilbao
    midweek 14-16: UCL-Qf2
    Sat 18: CdR-F
    midweek 21-23: J32 (A) Celta
    weekend 25-26: J33 (H) Atlético Madrid
    midweek 28-30: UCL-Sf1

    MAY 2020
    weekend 2-3: J34 (A) Villarreal
    midweek 5-7: UCL-Sf2
    weekend 9-10: J35 (H) Espanyol
    midweek 12-14: J36 (A) Valladolid
    weekend 16-17: J37 (H) Osasuna
    midweek 19-21: --
    weekend 23-24: J38 (A) Alavés
    Wed 27: UEL-F in Gdansk
    Sat 30: UCL-F in Istanbul
     
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  4. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    So one difference I see is that the CdR final is in April and La Liga is shut-down during the weekend of that final. So not reaching the final would mean a full week of rest in the middle of the busy time of the year (and right before having to play possibly Atletico and a UCL semifinal a 4-day span).

    Might be a good season to lose in the CdR quarters. :whistling:
     
  5. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
    26 man squad named for Asia tour well Japan tour but hopefully all of Asia will be tuning in. The two matches this squad will be involved in are:
    • Tuesday 23rd July vs Chelsea in Tokyo
    • Saturday 27th vs Vissel Kobe in Kobe

      What the graphic/list above doesn't show is who is missing. To me it looks like mainly South American and African players who featured in the recent cups: Messi, Suarez, Arthur, Coutinho, Vidal and promising Senegal Barca B player Wague (RB).
     
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  6. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    "Barcelona have announced record revenue for the sixth season running with the club closing their accounts for the 2018-19 season with a recorded income of €990 million ($1.1 billion).

    It's the second season running in which the Spanish champions have broken the billion-dollar mark. They became the first sports team to ever pass the milestone last year when they brought in €914m ($1.019 billion).

    However, the club's spending was also up, with expenses hitting €973m ($1.085 billion). A pre-tax operating profit of €17m ($19m) is down on the €20m ($22m) they posted last season."
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Wonder if that includes FDJ...
     
  8. Gilmango

    Gilmango Member+

    Jul 20, 2006
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I have read it probably would not include FDJ in the profit and loss for 18/19, or if it did, would only include a pro-rated amount of his transfer fee (even though all the fee may have been paid it 18/19). I believe that Barca spreads the transfer fee over the duration of the contract (to better 'normalize' the expense). So a player who is signed for 50M, and has a contract which pays 10M a season for five years, would be a 20M expense in each of his first 5 seasons, thereafter, if he stays at Barca, only his Barca salary is counted as an expense (as is the case with all La Masia raised players).

    So things get dicey when we have players who don't work out.

    If we loan out the same player in the example for seasons 3, 4, and 5, to a club which pays his salary, then we still record an expense of 10M a season for the pro-rated transfer fee.

    If instead we sell that same player for 20M after season 2, then rather than a 20M gain on the sale, we have to take a 10M hit in season 3 (we paid 50M, had expensed 10M each in seasons 1 and 2, so 30M was to be expensed in 3, 4, and 5; instead we sold 'at a loss' and had to recognize that loss 30M still not expensed offset by the 20M we received=10M loss all recognized in season 3).

    These kinds of accounting details are one reason why teams will often loan out a player rather than sell him, when it is a very expensive player on a very high salary. See Arda Turan. Of course when you are on a huge wage bill and fail there are often few clubs who can afford to both pay your salary and also pay a transfer fee, so the loan may work well for both clubs (more so for the borrowing club if the lending club still pays some of the salary, or has to take the player back if the borrowing club change its mind at any point).
     
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  9. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Kickoff for the first clásico is Sunday 16h00; second clasico is Sunday, 1 March at 20h45.
     
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  10. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
  11. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
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    Players’ faces listening to Valverde’s instructions, lol.
     
  12. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    he was trying to explain Bartomeo's vision for the club :D
     
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  13. Force Barca

    Force Barca Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Dec 23, 2017
    #Announce Neymar
     
  14. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    First Liga match away to Athletic Bilbao no longer on Friday 16 August...

     
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  15. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    1154786057910538241 is not a valid tweet id
     
  16. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
     
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  17. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
  18. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
  19. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Yep ... it’s not looking good for us Brits at all ..
     
  20. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    This is ridiculous, if true:

    [Onda Cero] | Suarez and Griezmann did not speak and did not even look at each other during the first training together.

    Remember Suarez once accused the French in old statements where he told him; ‘You are French and do not know what the feelings of being Uruguayan’.
     
  21. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    What’s the backstory behind that quote?
     
  22. Viscaelbarca

    Viscaelbarca Moderator
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    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 31, 2007
    MELT01
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Griezmann said a few weeks ago that Suarez called him and congratulated him on the move. It's just newspapers trying to stir things up.
     
  23. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    it was pre-match banter leading up to Uruguay vs France in the WC2018

    [​IMG]
     
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  24. Viscaelbarca

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    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 31, 2007
    MELT01
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    #25 Viscaelbarca, Aug 2, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2019

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