Health Care Reform Part IV: The Trumpening

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  1. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

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  2. jmartin1966

    jmartin1966 Member+

    Jun 13, 2004
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    that's what he does best
     
  3. Boloni86

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  4. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

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    The Art of the Deal: Second Edition

    How to get a Republican majority into both houses of Congress and still not be able to get a Republican bill passed
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    But Ryan and co can't do that because they have too many $$$ from backers over the last 7 years promising repeal and tax cuts

    That really illustrates why the system is broken

    They can't deliver policy that works for the citizens because they have sold the policy long ago

    Today that conflict of interest played out in favour of the citizens legislators represent - so Ryan went down

    I doubt those who spent so much money are highly amused by this.
     
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    I think this shows why a cross aisle effort didn't and won't happen.

    Theoretically getting Dems on board means the FC can be ignored.

    But there is no way Ryan's bloc can support improved Obamacare

    The trillion in tax cuts was his goal!
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

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  8. Knave

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    He's a liar. He's unpopular. He's under FBI investigation. And the bill sucked. Why anyone thought Trump had political capital to burn on this, and why they thought he had any clout to twist arms, is beyond me. He's weak as hell. And the GOPers on the hill know it.
     
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  9. superdave

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    This guy is positioning himself for VP in 2020, straight up.
     
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  10. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Let's see. So far that's a no on muslim ban, muslin ban 2.0, Mexico paying for the wall, Obamacare repeal, getting his NSA to stay on the job. Did I miss anything?

    And his supporters were going to get "tired of winning"...
     
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  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
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    He values being flexible.
     
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  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Obama_Biden.jpg

    "Hey Barack - Trump thought this was gonna be a slam dunk. Ha ha ha!"
     
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  13. stanger

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    I know exactly what lawyers do, that's why I responded like I did.

    You have a warped sense of reality. Wanting to maintain a high level of care for my children and being skeptical of change isn't the same as showing no regard for anyone else.

    Typical lawyer. Let me guess, you do criminal defense?
     
  14. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    You have no idea what lawyers do.

    You had no regard for anyone who had pre-existing conditions but had trouble getting insurance, and were a complete asshole during the Obamacare discussions, continued to lie about them, and you continue to lie about health care now (all your Medicare stories). You show no regard for anyone but yourself and your children. I don't respect you for that view, or respect you at all.

    And no, I don't do criminal defense. If you knew what lawyers did, you'd have guessed right!
     
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  15. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

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    Boy, it was really hard to get a sheet of paper between your versions of them. Thin paper,
     
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  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    I'm starting to think stanger just didn't like Obamacare for many other reasons............
    :)
     
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  17. stanger

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    Considering my situation, you will need to find the posts where I showed no regard for people with pre-existing conditions.

    I will guarantee you I know more about Medicare than you ever will.
     
  18. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    1. All the posts where you were completely opposed to Obamacare for reasons that might affect the care of your children - the reasons that you could never articulate because they never had anything to do with the substance of the law. As you were told repeatedly. But instead of examining the law, you yelled "no, no change!" What did you think that meant for people with pre-existing conditions?
    You think you're unique? You think you're the only magical flower that has a family with health issues? Grow up, snowflake! Your baseless fear (and the lies you told based on that fear) were the counterpoint to millions having the ability to buy insurance despite having cancer.

    2. A Trump-like statement. I guarantee you I know more about Medicare than you. Voila.
     
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  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Well you're a Wall St. lawyer so you kinda do right? (ducks)
     
  20. stanger

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    You aren't in my situation and never will be if you are lucky. To call my concern for my children anything other than parental is simply ignorant of the facts that come with caring for medically fragile children. I don't expect you to understand and I don't care what your opinion of me is.

    And yes, I know more about Medicare than you ever will. And you can characterize that statement however you want as well.
     
  21. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
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    Oh please, you can do better than that!
     
  22. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
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    You're a bad human being. And you're gong on ignore.
     
  23. stanger

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    I'm not and that's your choice.
     
  24. y-lee-coyote

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    Man it is like watching my sixth graders go at each other. It is really sad that our government has gotten to the point that I want to tell them they are going to get lunch detention if they don't play nice with each other. Nobody cares about me or you, they just care about the other side being wrong. Feck us everyone eh?
     
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  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    It's friday and I'm two beers in so I'll resort to cheating:

    Why does California have the most lawyers and New Jersey the most toxic waste dumps?
    . . . New Jersey had first choice!

    What do lawyers and bullfrogs have in common?
    . . . Both have a big head that consists mainly of mouth.

    What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?
    . . . Two dobermans!

    What happens when a lawyer is made godfather?
    . . . He makes you an offer you can't understand.

    What's the difference between a lawyer and a snake run down on the highway?
    . . . Skid marks in front of the snake.

    What do you have when you have ten lawyers buried up to their necks in sand?
    . . . Not enough sand!

     

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