He Scores When He Wants .. - The Marcus Rashford Thread

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  1. Ashur

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    Not sure about quoting goal.com, amigo, but looking ahead to 18/19 Marcus does need to push himself into a higher gear. The talent and athleticism are there and he's shown tremendous maturity for a player of his age.

    Was Marcus Rashford better than Harry Kane at the age of 19? Clearly yes, but can he make the incredible progression than Kane in his early 20s? We shall see.
     
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    I agree and I think he will.



    13 goals and 9 assists in a season where he was confined to a backup role for the majority of the season is a pretty decent return. And while there was perhaps a natural tendency to expect so much more from him, after his fast start as a United senior player, he's still very young and therefore an inconsistent streak will be expected.
    The hope for the coming season is for him to take the next step in his progression, become more consistent and eradicate basic and frequent mistakes he appear to make more often we'd like to see from him.
    I'm definitely not overly worried about him at this point in time though.
     
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    That's cute, but needed to earn it. Didnt play well last year. Only one stand out game, the Liverpool home game. Highly frustrating to watch last year.
     
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    That's a very big shoes to fill in.
     
  9. MizzouMUFC

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    He doesn't deserve that number. Not yet at least.
     
  10. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    i know i say this every summer/preseason but we are always the last club to have our numbers announced or made official. even more so if we expect a few departures.

    it might be true but definitely not confirmed yet. recent past examples of tour numbers that didn't stick are Shaw 3 and Memphis 9
     
  11. MizzouMUFC

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    Fact remains that Rashford hasn't earned the 10 and most of all he doesn't need anything more going to his head. It's pretty clear to me that his ego has been inflating over the past year or so. He's buying until himself a little too much and it shows in his play.
     
  12. Ashur

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    #487 Ashur, Aug 5, 2018
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    Unless official has another meaning, Rashford getting the #10 shirt has been confirmed by the club (and also Mourinho himself).

    www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/3586129/manchester-united-give-marcus-rashford-no-10-shirt

    Would have probably preferred he didn't get this shirt yet, but now that he has it, let's hope he does not completely lose his way, like other guys who recently were given iconic shirt numbers.
    And let's hope it actually pushes him to new heights. Rashford, despite not playing anywhere near his best football, still has put up decent numbers this past season. Want to see some progression in his game, more than anything else.
     
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    Hoping he has a real good season and I am tired of hearing the "He's still young" bullshit when he doesn't play well
     
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    When Rash plays for England he plays like he has to prove something, when he plays for us he looks like he doesn't give a fly.
     
  16. Ashur

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    Rashford is a special talent - Southgate

    www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/3631764/marcus-rashford-ahead-of-cristiano-ronaldo-harry-kane-at-same-age-southgate

    The argument as to whether Rashford is ahead of the likes of Ronaldo or Kane when they were 20, only matters so much. What really matters is where he will end up. And that brings us back to the issue of his development, which is part of his problem currently at United under Mourinho.
    We'll have to see how it goes with the recent coaching changes at the club and what looks like a difference in approach on Mourinho's part. Don't think it's a coincidence that many players on the squad have made reference in one way or another about how they enjoy playing with their national teams, namely because they enjoy more freedom.
    Hard to see Rashford, especially at this stage of his career evolving the way he is expected to under Mourinho's stiff system. He's clearly not the only one either...
     
  17. MizzouMUFC

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    The comparison to Ronaldo is a little ridiculous. Ronaldo was extremely raw when we got him but he was already elite on the ball. Once he developed his decision making and finishing he became world class.

    Rashford isnt elite or close to it anywhere other than his pace. Id argue his decision making is worse than Ronalod's (and thats saying something). I think Rash could become a very good player eventually but he could just as easily turn into another Januzaj.
     
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    Rashford has got solid scorers' instincts. His decision making and finishing are still works in progress and there is plenty of room for improvement on his overall game.
    Working on those elements of his game are on him, but coaching and being taught also are a vital part of the development of any 20yr old kid.
     
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    I love what Jose said about Rashford.

    Especially when he compared him to Dominic Solanke, Loftus Cheek and Calvert Lewin.

    Cant link tweet right now
     
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    #495 Ashur, Sep 14, 2018
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    Mourinho defends his use of Rashford.

    www.bbc.com/sport/football/45519863

    Rashford's game time/mins never have been the issue, as mentioned plenty of times. We really are in a Catch 22 situation with him (on top of the obvious issues with his coaching and development): ideally, Rashford should be assigned one position and he should be playing as many games as possible in said position.
    Unfortunately, we are not in a position to do so with and have to play him all over the place. It can be argued that could hinder his progress. And furthermore, while Rashford has not progressed at the rate that was desired, his production has not been rubbish and he still has recorded 13 goals in all comps last season...
     
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    Rashford needs a run in the team at CF - Shearer

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    I'm in agreement with Shearer on this one. Rashford really did not have the best if games yesterday but it was pretty obvious to see the difference in our play once he came off for Lukaku.
    Lukaku really needs to be shut down for a few games, except in case of a real emergency. Something is clearly off with him at the moment.
    Rashford's play was spotty, but he put in the work, tried to make runs and generally made our attack look better for a change. A sustained run upfront while Lukaku sorts himself out could do him and team a world of good perhaps. At the very least, it's sorth the try.
     
  23. Gilma1990

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    I would drop Rashford and Lukaku and give Sanchez a shot at CF. It was from the CF spot that Sanchez scored so many goals for Arsenal.
     
  24. MizzouMUFC

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    The problem with Rashford at CF is that he's not a great finisher, his hold up play is awful, and he tends to try and do everything himself. He makes good runs in behind but we have nobody capable of playing a pass in behind the back line other than Pogba.

    I do think he needs more games at CF but we currently need him on the wing. At this point Sanchez should only be played at CF because he gives the ball away too much anywhere else on the field and hes still a good finisher. Other than Martial we have no decent wingers. RW is a revolving door of mediocrity. Rashford there at least give us pace. Ideally we would invest in a RW this winter/summer and Rashford could return to being a backup CF. But that still leaves Sanchez who, at this point, who the ******** knows where he should go other than the bench.
     
  25. MizzouMUFC

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    One thing to remember is that Sanchez scored a lot while at Arsenal as a CF because as a team they created a lot of chances. We do not. With us he would need to be much more clinical than he was at Arsenal. He would also be much more isolated in our setup and therefore his holdup play would have to be good. I'm not sure he can spin in circles enough times to allow us to get up field to support him.
     

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