Hazard Warning Signs - The Chelsea Transfer Thread

Fab has played 48 total PL minutes, we would not miss him; and besides his defending makes Jorginho look like Mak

I do wonder if Fab had stayed at Arse as its talisman, would he not be a near legend now, and allowed Wenger to milk out a few more year of has been glories

 

That will likely change now that we’ve gotten to the Xmas schedule cluster. Also Jorginho can’t play in 4 comps. We don’t have a youth player that fits the role. Which means we either need to spend on a back up (when we have much more important holes to fill) or resign Fabs to cover for the domestic cup competitions and maybe some weaker EPL teams. Fabs makes much more sense for another year maybe 2.

 

I’m happy with either one. I think Pulisic would fit us better than he does Favre’s more defensive system. He presses and dribbles - that’s what we can use.

 

AC Milian can have him but we better hold strong on that 35 so that we recoup our fees from him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weaint...oved-bakayoko-start-talks-with-chelsea-report

 

No thanks. Absolutely not what we want long term.

 

What do you mean no thank and then not what we want long term? AC Milan wants to buy him. That’s a yes please. Not what we want long term. Yes please sell him. Hold strong on the 35 is the only thing but your response doesn’t exactly touch on that tho I may just be tired... long day. They’ll pay it. If his form continues someone else will if they don’t. We get 35 plus the 5 for the loan this year we call him a wash in our books.

 

I don't want him back. At all. If we got 15m I'd be happy.

 

We don’t have to sell him for less than his value to never have him back. We could loan him out each year till his contract ends and make his transfer value back for all I care. As long as we make the value back. Wiping his mastske off at no loss would only serve to help us.

 

How is loaning him out helping us make his transfer value back? Loans just pay for his salary, doesn't get us income. And I have no hope that all these loans will shoot up his value. I will be happy with 15m for him.

 

There are different terms to loans. My understanding is this was set up where they are paying his wages and a fee, with the option to buy. Very different then Izzy Brown where we’re paying his wages and no loan fee.

If he does well like apparently he’s now doing then his value will rise. 35 might be high but I see no reason to cave. I can’t believe I’m saying this but United stands strong in the market on their excess players and they almost always get their fee back. Pool has done the same recently as well. We can’t cave.

 

Well said.

People can be so quick here to pass judgment. Not only do we have favorable loan terms with AC but he is showing what brought him to us in the first place. If he keeps this up settling for anything less than 35, especially in an inflated market (what planet are some of you living on where he is worth 15?), would be illogical. Makes no sense money-wise, player-wise, nothing. No sense. 24 and now putting in MOTM performances in Italy.

Same folks that wanted to sell everyone during the Jose 'mare season. Same people who lost their minds over signing Barkley, etc. etc.

 

These are entirely different scenarios. Bakayoko has been terrible, atrocious really for much of the season for AC Milan. It hasn't been more than a month where he's produced at a high level. If he can keep this up great and if we can get 35 then awesome, but I need to see more than a month of anything from him to even get my hopes up. Bakayoko had nothing but chances for us last season and he was bad.

 

15 mil, even with your reasoning, doesn't make a modicum of sense.

Assuming he continues at a decent level, 35m will be seen as a bargain. My whole argument here is saying "******** it just give us the 15 now don't want him back" is a non-sequitur given the circumstances. Scenarios can be different but it's the same type of irrational thinking.

He can go from excellent with Monaco to having a bad season with us (in what was full of all sorts of problems outside of just him) to being worth nothing? Yeahhhh no. I'll ride this season out in AC before making any rash judgment.

 

He wasn't great at Monaco. Don't get me wrong he's decent, but he was the 4th best midfielder on that Monaco side behind Silva, Fabinho, and Moutinho. I thought ot could be different but I don't see it. This is a stupid argument to have as well so I'll pass.

 

You'll pass on having an argument you just had/continued? You're right, this is stupid.

Hysaj apparently a real possibility. I don't know much at all about him but if he is a capable full back then I welcome him. Is he fast? Alonso/Azpi need proper cover if not competition.

I hate to give up on Morata but he seems doomed.Yet another want-away player despite whatever he claims about wanting to succeed here. That's three strikers we force out of their respective clubs or at end up here and become miserable (Torres, Diego, Morata.. hmm.. all Spanish too...). At least Diego was good for something. A good striker plus Pulisic in the mix would be fuego.

 

He’s faster than both of them but he isnt Kyle Walker track runner fast. He can play on either side which is a huge plus. Just not worth 50 million he’s rumored for if you ask me but I think he’d be a good get.

 

Oh how I wish we'd gotten that speed demon. Agreed.. that is steep. Though that seems to be what the market demands from us for any player coming from another good club a la Napoli so it's not surprising.

How about our lovely scouts scope out another Azpi for us (bargain of the ********ing century @ 7 mil)? Not that I expect it but you'd think we would start signing smarter instead of continually beating our heads trying to force players out of clubs. Granted, we have made very smart decisions.. some really stupid departures have come back to bite us.

 

The press loves to connect new managers with their old clubs and raiding players. I think that used to happen a lot more than it does in the modern game. Yes, Sarri got Jorginho - I think that was biggest holdup of Sarri actually coming here (which reveals something about Sarri).

I think there's more talk than action regarding manager's old clubs. Maybe a player here or there. Sarri getting two players from Napoli would be a lot.

 

Odd report in the media of Morata being offered to Barcelona. He would perhaps do better for them, but would they really want him?

Also, now that Inter Milan are out of the CL, does that open up the possibility of signing Mauro Icardi?

 

More Pulisic talk for 60m

 

Still too high of he isn’t coming in January. I think we should be able to get a better deal for a player entering the last 18 months of a deal if January or 12 if summer. Dortmund don’t have leverage. Pool has too much talent on the wings and I don’t see him wanting to go to ManU

 

Supposedly he would stay in Germany till the summer. So with that in mind...deff too high of a price

 

60m to sign one of the hottest young prospects in the world from BvB is too high? I’ve made the case in the past but guys, do you pay attention to the market? We just paid 70m for a mufuggin GOALKEEPER. 60m for a prospective outright starter at that age and potential is reasonable given the market. I get his contract is winding down but if we can capitalize then we absolutely should.

 

I get why their gonna pay it. They want to make sure they get their guy and he’s the market is crazy. However, he wants to go England. As it stands, City is a hard no if he wants to play. Pool as tempting a Klopp reunion might be has 3 players that are young and in their prime that would be ahead of him. I suspect he wants to stay far far away from Man U and Mou but who knows how much longer he’s there. That leaves Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea. We’re the only team that will pay close to their want. Spurs won’t offer 40 and I doubt arsenal wouldn’t either if their even interested. We are in the poll position for a reason we’re the best fit for all parties. 45 with incentives to raise to 55 for a player with 18/12 months left who will walk for free if they don’t sell is the best offer theyll get.

 

Anybody want Pogba? He seems surplus to requirements at MU.