Hazard Warning Signs - The Chelsea Transfer Thread

Man, I like CHO and want him to succeed but Sancho was getting appearances a season before CHO came to the first team. That and Sancho has been walking the walk and then some.

 

But MORE than we need some quality in midfield? Hmm... maybe. I'd think if there's cash available we need some real quality there first, tbh.

Kova looks to be improving I suppose and Barkley flips from good, through serviceable to pretty bad, (or totally ineffective anyway), but it's all far from certain atm.

 

I'll be honest, I haven't really been paying much attention to Puli until he looked to be signing for us... at which point he seemed to stop appearing a lot. Was that injury, manager choosing someone else or some other reason... I dunno!

 

The less we see of Barkley starting, the better.

 

He made a blunder for England the other day right at the start of the match, (although not as much as the guy he passed to), but was pretty influential and positive after that, tbh.

I think the real issue is what the alternative's are.

Kova seems to have started contributing but neither he nor Jorginho are likely to chip in with goals from what I've seen so I think you're being a bit harsh on Barklet, tbh. If we had an alternative who'd produced reliably, fine... but we haven't.

 

With two people dripping wet and nothing positively gained?

 

It all depends on who our manager is and what system we play. At the moment, we’re going with a weird 4-2-3-1 which wants a #10 we simply don’t have. So I’d take Sancho. When RLC comes back, where are these spaces in midfield going to come from?

As for Barkley - lol. He shouldn’t start for us or England. That he plays ahead of Dele for Southgate is pretty funny.

 

Did anyone actually suggest CHO got paid too much? I don’t think I saw anything like that.
He’s a really good prospect, we paid him. Makes sense to me. Who’s complaining about it?

 

I think the assumption was that it's a lot of money for a kid who has done nothing so far.

(He hasn't signed any contract yet.)

But Billy Gilmour just signed a 4-year deal.

 

Yes absolutely.

 

Dele is our injured otherwise I doubt he starts over him.

 

My only point was others will keep him as barometer when they negotiate wages. Don't want to end up in a situation like United where Rashford is making 250k a week. Also pretty clear we need to double down on him with our transfer ban and team in transition.

 

I think Lampard has almost entirely gone with the 4-2-3-1 (other than one game), so that appears to be his preferred choice at the moment.
I agree it's far too early to make any kinds of calls on Mount, but I'm certainly happy to give ourselves more time to figure it out! That said, it also shouldn't stop us from signing a top playing "because we have Mount".

If I never see Barkley play for us again, I'm fine with that. We shouldn't have bought him. That Liverpool's mayor almost filed a complaint over Barkley's transfer is just amazing.

 

Was genuinely asking - I didn't see any complaints. We paid CHO market rates for a promising prospect wanted by clubs like Bayern. It is what it is. Now he has to back those wages up.

 

Well, if I thought the guy was available to us I'd also go with Sancho but, as you suggest, quite where all these guys are going to play then becomes an issue.

Deli can be the very definition of invisible, tbh, so I'm not sure that's the best comparison but I thought he was injured actually.

Anyway, that's England. They can sort themselves out strictly speaking. I was just saying that he made a decent contribution for us the other night.

 

Not really. We play a lot of games and the squad will be rotated. Between a 4-3-3 and a 4-2-3-1 it would fine.

Cho, Pulisic and Sancho for 2 wide spots
Pulisic and Mount for the 10.
Mount, RLC, Kova, Kante for 2 CM in 3
Jorge and Kante for the 1 DM in 3
Kova, Kante and potentially RLC or Mount for the 2 CM in 2.

They might not all be happy to miss the big game but the squad will rotate and they’ll get plenty of PT and drive to improve

 

The thing about Barkley, as I said a while back, is that he's 25 now so he's probably as good as he's going to get. Frankly, he seemed to be a better player when we signed him than he does now.

So all of these younger guys, (apart from RLC who's a couple of years older), have a possibility to get better and RLC was a more dangerous and creative player than Ross, anyway.

 

1. I think Sancho would fit in fine. That said, whether I’d spend 90mm on him is an entirely different issue!
2. Dele is a great player in that he can do everything well. You need him to press? He can do that. Defend? Ok. Pass - pretty good at it. Make runs into the box? He’s great at that. His issue for me is his injury history.
Barkley....runs forward and then shoots from 30 yards out.

 

Just on the point of what we have with Mount... I don't think it's true to say we don't know what we have. I'd say we have a reasonably good idea, tbh. Now, whether he can be relied upon to maintain his form or to get better... that we don't know.

He's contributed creativity and goals even thus far but he's also a known quantity to the manager who's handled him for a while now so I think talking about him as if we've got no idea what to expect isn't entirely accurate.

However, I think, like all young players, he'll blow hot and cold in particular games.

 

Well, sometimes he just falls over the ball or passes to the opposition

Nah, like I say, after a dreadful start he played quite well for England until he ran out of gas the other night.

Unless he drastically improves his form unexpectedly, (which is unlikely at his age), both us and England need better and more reliably dangerous players than Barkley, though... that's the point.

 

He’s going to cost way way more than that. My bet is 130 to 150.

Real, Man U and City all want him and in City’s case they want him back. He’s english so it’s a return it England it will be costly. He’s 19 and he looks to be legit. Plus well the market is still stupid from PSG breaking it to buy Neymar