Sampaoli is struggling trying to find his way in Brazil.. https://www.sofascore.com/botafogo-sp-santos/tOsEO https://www.sofascore.com/ituano-santos/tOsAP
Neymar at World Cup:2.87 Passing Value Added (2nd)28 completed passes into the box (leads all players)16 open play killer passes (leads all players)1.99 On Ball Progression Added(leads all players)59 touches in the box (leads all players)19 completed dribbles (3rd) pic.twitter.com/MDptmnFJaU— Scott Willis (@scottjwillis) July 6, 2018 oh and also he has the highest non-pen xG at 3.37The highest xG + xA at 6.74Created the most chances at 23 and took the most shots— Scott Willis (@scottjwillis) July 6, 2018 Yeah his embellishments are over the top and probably cost him a penalty today. He also was among the most fouled.— Scott Willis (@scottjwillis) July 6, 2018 That was sure something pic.twitter.com/N5PYHM2dX6— Scott Willis (@scottjwillis) July 6, 2018 Belgium vs France World Cup Semi Final 🔒 Patrons onlyhttps://t.co/pSl3Te2v3y pic.twitter.com/i6Kz9lgLv5— Scott Willis (@scottjwillis) July 10, 2018
Neymar as starter: Neymar x Mbappe Neymar at PSG: 54 M, 45 W, 4 D, 5 L, 184 GF, 47 GA = 85,8% Points, 2.53 Goal Difference per match. Mbappe at PSG: 84 M, 63W, 10 D, 11 L, 237 GF, 76 GA = 79% Points, 1.92 Goal Difference per match. https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2018/may/using-big-data-to-analyze-soccer/ https://arxiv.org/pdf/1802.04987.pdf http://business-analytic.co.uk/blog/valuing-passes-and-thoughts-on-metrification/ Neymar Team Results +8% http://www.football-observatory.com/-profile-42987-_none Mbappe Team Results +4% http://www.football-observatory.com/-profile-123187-_none Maybe that 2018-2019 was his worst season in Europe tho, I think his carrer is is already going to the end tho, each match he seems to be slower and fragile. I don't think he'll ever /have the energy of his first season at PSG.
He could probably start a new career in boxing(in the flyweight division) His stance is a bit unorthodox,guerilla style (hit and run lol)
European Competition and NT Stats: 216 Goals and 130 Assists in 340 Matches 1.02 G+A/Match At Santos: 138 Goals and 65 Assists in 225 Matches 0.91 G+A/Match All 138 Goals at Santos All 105 Goals at Barcelona 50 Goals at PSG 59 Goals with Brazil
PD: Transfermarkt https://www.transfermarkt.pt/neymar/leistungsdatenverein/spieler/68290 https://www.transfermarkt.pt/neymar/nationalmannschaft/spieler/68290 286 Goals (240 Non-Penalty Goals) + 180 Assists in 474 Matches (38882 minutes) 1 Assist or Non-Penalty Goal each 92.57 minutes. That doesn't include the Paulista State League. Paulista State League: 53 Goals and 26 Assists in 76 Matches. Neither Copa do Brasil Copa do Brasil: 13 Goals and 7 Assists in 15 Matches. So that doesn't include: 66 Profesional Goals and 33 Assists. So he has 352 Goals and 213 Assists (OPTA stats) in 565 Matches.
Neymar (2017- ) 2018 and (2018- ) 2019 PSG and Brazil: 59 Goals (45 Non-PK Goals) + 39 Assists in 6591 Minutes (77 Matches). One Non-PK Goal or assist each 78.5 Minutes. At PSG 51 Goals (41 Non-PK Goals) + 29 Assists in 58 Matches (5048 Minutes) PSG Team Goals: 191 Direct Involvement: 41,9%, w/o including PK 36,6%. Neymar as a starter whoscored rating (UCL and Ligue 1): 8.71 (49 Matches) Overall Neymar is having a great performance in PSG, the problem is that he has always been injured .. but with him the PSG plays much better. I've him as the second best player nowadays, with Hazard as the third and Cristiano and Mbappe fighting for the 4º place. Messi is still the best player. Until few time ago: Neymar x Mbappe Neymar at PSG: 54 M, 45 W, 4 D, 5 L, 184 GF, 47 GA = 85,8% Points, 2.53 Goal Difference per match. Mbappe at PSG: 84 M, 63W, 10 D, 11 L, 237 GF, 76 GA = 79% Points, 1.92 Goal Difference per match. Neymar en el Barcelona 186 M (74,73%), 139 W, 21 D, 26 L 78.49% 500 GF (2,688) 151 GA 1,876 GOAL DIFFERENCE Barcelona (2017-2018, 2018-2019) 113 M, 79 W (69,91%), 25 D, 9 L 77.22% 271 GF (2,398), 88 GA, 1.619 GOAL DIFFERENCE. Even with Coutinho and Dembele. And Messi never worked so hard like in the last two seasons. https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...nt-than-ever-and-barcelona-is-more-dependent/ Post 6521 https://leforum.culturepsg.com/index.php?showtopic=7171&st=6520 https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3tn2xb/neymar_and_suarez_stats_with_and_without_messi/
Hazard is almost 29 years old and hasn't scored or assisted 1 goal in the QF to final rounds of the CL Neymar hasn't done so since 2015 IT was only last year ronaldo scored 15 goals in a single edition of the Champions League There is no player at this stage outside of messi who can comfortably be placed ahead of ronaldo (even at 34 years old he is still world class and a undisputed top 10 player in the world) Until neymar and hazard learn how to perform in big games (and neymar hasn't completed a full season in 2 years cmon Tropeiro be serious dude) Mbappe has just scored at a superior rate to prime edison cavani and almost at the rate of prime ibrahimovic He is 20 years old You and others are for some reason criminally underrating mbappe just because he doesn't fit your subjective criteria of what constitutes as a great classical player(with silky skills and weight of pass) If you remember how devastating Henry was in his heyday mbappe is primed to be even more devastating Mbappe at 22-26 years old (barring injuries) is a 40 goal+15 assist player Remember I said it
Well, he almost eliminated Liverpool in his CL group (Liverpool is ranked as the best club in the world accoding Elo methodology and is a 97 point team in the strongest league in the World, the EPL) https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...eague-2018-2019-Paris-Saint-Germain-Liverpool He was the MOTM against Napoli as well: https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...s-League-2018-2019-Napoli-Paris-Saint-Germain These are big games and yes he has many big games for PSG, Brazil and Barcelona now (against many TOP10 ranked teams and NTs)... just like Hazard has as well. I would put both over Ronaldo nowadays. Post 232, 242 and 246 https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/best-players-of-18-19-season.2102576/page-10 Btw, I'm hoping for Hazard in Madrid to see if he will increase his performance or not like Cristiano did, too bad that he is already 28 (and not 24-26) at end of his peak. Mbappe is already at Ibra's peak (-or at least PSG) level, probably even better since 15-16 Ibra is a outlier in his PSG carrer. But he isn't delivering good performances in the most important matches, as for example against Liverpool, Napoli, Manchester United and in the final of the French Cup, for example. Also his record is not as good as Neymars record, still. So I would place him below Neymar at the moment. Let's see next season.
Big games for a team ranked top 10 in the world are Champions League Quarter finals Semi finals Finals Cup (copa del rey, French cup, fa cup etc) Finals only ( at the SF stage and below super teams seldomly face challenges) What was hazard and neymars record in those matches (Groupstage performance shouldn't count here unless we are using a different measuring stick for CR) The difference between ronaldo and hazard/neymar is like rafa Nadal vs Murray/stan wawrinka In some years they are seeded higher for performing better at some tournaments In overall class/form they are still not definitely better (not even a 34 year old ronaldo) Mbappes output is at or close to the level of prime ibrahimovic Technically he is not there and frankly may never be Id say mbappe right now is of the same level as neymar 14/15 who was 22-23 years old (with mbappe being better in the league but worse than neymar in the Champions League-both played with a similar team edge of 160-180 team goals) I agree though neymars highest level is above mbappe(especially in playmaking not scoring necessarily) Thing is neymar hasn't been at that level since his injury in early 2018 So in form mbappe is better than hazard and neymar even though in "class' he is worse (than neymar not hazard who never had a season as highly rated as mbappe and you can't even dispute this Take your pick from Dbs calcio,whoscored,opta etc
Its OK to measure finals and the CL KO stages, but IMO all matches vs team ranked as TOP10 or even TOP20 in the ELO Ranking is a BIG Game, in terms of both teams being competitive. Btw if it wasn't Neymar, PSG was out in the Group Stage. No mistake here, Pool vs PSG and Napoli vs PSG were BIG Games. Point is that he plays less big games in France than playing for Barcelona or Juventus (in the Ronaldo class) or in the PL (like Hazard). Btw, don't compare Neymar and Hazard with Mbappe they are a different type of players it is like compare Maradona with Van Basten or Messi with 15-19 Ronaldo with the exception that Mbappe is not delivering good performances against TOP10-20 teams of Europe and seems to be better playing with Neymar behind him than w/o Neymar. Hazard for example is better than Mbappe at dribbling, passing, progressing the ball to the final meters, to carry his team etc.. the same apply to Neymar, except that Neymar has still more xG Build Up and Goals/Assists to his name. Mbappe has more athleticism and make more goals. Cristiano Ronaldo is still World Class (TOP4 imo), but Juventus didn't really improved with him compared with the last season. My TOP5 nowadays: 1: Messi 2: Neymar 3: Hazard 4: Cristiano 5: Mbappe
You miss the point You are comparing form with class Even when I consider mbappe greater than cristiano Ronaldo this season it is based on form (2nd behind messi in golden boot race this season-32 league goals with 1 penalty at 20 years old) He is the best young striker since R9 and/or Jimmy greaves In form neymar has no place being near a top 5 list this season(even according to your own graph) "In class" neymar is a top 5 player in the world for his level between 15-18 In form+class ronaldo is a top 5 player in the world (based on this seasons exploits and what he's done since 2007) What is hazards record in European competitions+top 6 PL teams this season? he has played further afield alot particularly in the first half as a false 9 with mixed performances He is inconsistent too (his record throughout a season deserves more scrutiny if you are ranking him so high as a top 3 player in all of Europe)
He probably is, point is that he isn't included because of his insufficent number of minutes. Btw, my point is that in BIG Games he was better than Mbappe. In their NTs too. Neymar was better for Brazil than Mbappe for France (friendlies vs Nation Leagues), here even more clearly. Mbappe had some better matches than Neymar in the French League tho, even if Neymar couldn't care less in some matches. PD: Even in the PSG Forum they had Neymar over Mbappe for now and it is french based forum, it is not class, but form as well. We'll see next year, if Neymar stays in shape, without getting injured, and if Mbappe comes even better ... and especially if PSG is reinforced, because today is a unbalanced and mediocre team.
Against the TOP16. ===> 2013-2014 vs M. City (8º) Home, 0 Goals, Rating: 7.30, Barcelona Rating: 7.42 vs Atletico (12º) Home, 1 Goal , Rating: 8.51, Barcelona Rating: 7.16 vs Atletico (12º) Away, 0 Goals, Rating: 6.68, Barcelona Rating: 6.65 vs Valencia (16º) Away, 1 Assist,Rating: 7.56, Barcelona Rating: 7.31 vs Madrid (3º) Home, 1 Goal, 1 Assist, Rating: 8.24 Barcelona Rating: 6.81 vs Madrid (3º) Away, 0 Goals, Rating: 7.31, Barcelona Rating: 7.18* *2 Assist (1PK caused) for Transfermarkt; Total: 6 Marches, 2 Goals and 2 Assist, Average Rating: 7.6, Barcelona Rating: 7.09 For Transfermarkt, 6 Matches, 2 Goals and 4 Assist. ===> 2014-2015 vs PSG (12º) Away, 1 Goal , Rating: 7.30, Barcelona Rating: 6.74 vs PSG (12º) Home, 1 Goal , Rating: 7.81, Barcelona Rating: 7.11 vs M. City (5º) Away, 0 Goal , Rating: 7.05, Barcelona Rating: 7.16 vs M. City (5º) Home, 0 Goal , Rating: 7.99, Barcelona Rating: 7.48 vs PSG (12º) Away, 1 Goal , Rating: 8.07, Barcelona Rating: 7.23 vs PSG (12º) Home, 2 Goals, Rating: 9.59, Barcelona Rating: 7.38 vs Bayern (2º) Home, 1 Goal , Rating: 8.54, Barcelona Rating: 7.51 vs Bayern (2º) Away, 2 Goals, Rating: 8.34, Barcelona Rating: 6.80 vs Juventus (9º) 1 Goal, Rating: 8.06, Barcelona Rating: 7.12 vs Bilbao (15º) 2 Goals as Sub vs Madrid (1º) Away, 1 Goal , Rating: 7.67, Barcelona Rating: 6.45 vs Sevilla (14º) Home, 1 Goal, 2 Assist, Rating: 9.33 Barcelona Rating: 7.40 vs Atletico (4º) Home, 1 Goal , Rating: 8.49, Barcelona Rating: 7.34 vs Bilbao (15º) Away, 1 Goal , Rating: 9.26, Barcelona Rating: 7.57 vs Madrid (1º) Home, 0 Goals, Rating: 8.19, Barcelona Rating: 7.20 vs Sevilla (14º) Away, 1 Goal, 1 Assist, Rating: 9.52, Barcelona Rating: 6.81 vs Atletico (4º) Away, 0 Goals, Rating: 7.17, Barcelona Rating: 7.12 Total: 17 Matches, 16 Goals, 3 Assists, Average Rating: 8.28 Barcelona Rating: 7.15 ===> 2015-2016 vs Leverkusen (15º)Home, 0 Goals, Rating: 7.39, Barcelona Rating: 6.94 vs Arsenal (11º) Away, 1 Assist,Rating: 8.39, Barcelona Rating: 7.55 vs Arsenal (11º) Home, 1 Goal , Rating: 9.45, Barcelona Rating: 7.37** vs Atletico (4º) Home, 0 Goals, Rating: 7.80, Barcelona Rating: 7.11 vs Atletico (4º) Away, 0 Goals, Rating: 6.77, Barcelona Rating: 6.49 vs Atletico (4º) Away, 1 Goal , Rating: 8.20, Barcelona Rating: 7.06 vs Sevilla (6º) Away, 1 Goal(PK), Rating: 9.09, Barcelona Rating: 6.73 vs Madrid (2º) Away, 1 Goal, 1 Asist, Rating: 9.70 Barcelona Rating: 7.65 vs Valencia (8º) Away, 0 Goals, Rating: 8.16, Barcelona Rating: 6.94 vs Atletico (4º) Home, 0 Goals, Rating: 7.11, Barcelona Rating: 7.13 vs Sevilla (6º) Home, 0 Goals, Rating: 7.51, Barcelona Rating: 6.85 vs Madrid (2º) Home, 0 Goals, Rating: 6.48, Barcelona Rating: 6.64 vs Valencia (8º) Away, 0 Goals, Rating: 6.60, Barcelona Rating: 6.93 ** + 1 Assist for Transfermarkt Total: 13 Matches, 4 Goals(1PK), 2 Assists, Average Rating: 7.90 Barcelona Rating: 7.03 For Transfermarkt, 13 Matches, 4 Goals, 3 Assists. 36 Matches, 22 Goals (21 NPK Goals), 7 Assists 10 Assists according Transfermarkt.
im not questioning the accuracy of your data but I have to ask Why top 16 Eloclub teams and not top 15 as you did with CR on the other thread Im going to pretend that there is no Brazil bias/free pass here In any case it's great work and would like to see seasons of suarez 13/14 and 15/16
This was yet another great domestic campaign by hazard By my count that is 4 2014/15 2016/17 2017/18 2018/19 if we're being generous we could also throw in 2013/14 Lead in dribbles and chances created and was voted PFA young player of the season 2015/16 detracts from his greatness if we are comparing to others who had multiple world class seasons Still though you cannot convince me here (about 21 year old CR vs 28 year old hazard) Until you can find me a winger who is the best dribbler and most technically gifted player in the world One of the best headers in the world One of the best crossers in the world One of the best FK takers in the world Than I can begin to even entertain the comparison Until then it doesn't make any sense at all to me Then after this stats come into the equation Hazard scored 1 open play goal in the europa league Ronaldo scored 3 goals+ 5 assists and a similar number of pre assists in the Champions League Like I said this isn't a serious comparison You are comparing apples with oranges Hazard played also played a large portion of this season as the furthest outfield player (striker or false 9) Manchester United in 2006/07 played with 2 traditional wingers ronaldo and giggs and 4 strikers on rotation Wayne Rooney Louis saha ole gunnar solskjaer HenrIk laarson Ronaldo assisted all these strikers Assisted Ryan giggs Assisted Micheal Carrick Assisted Scholes And still finished as his teams top scorer There is a reason I rate this as even better than some of his high scoring seasons in Madrid His goalscoring output from the position he played, his playmaking, his machine like consistency The fact that at 21 years old he was considered the best player of his league ahead of prime Didier Drogba, prime Terry, prime Gerrard, prime Lampard, prime alonso,cesc fabregas etc The fact that no one even disputed this(he was here the overwhelming winner) And to top it off won his domestic league
Just take Neymar impact in PSG as a example: Neymar en Ligue 1 en 2017 2018 20 Partidos, 69 Goles (Promedio 3,45) PSG sin Neymar en Ligue 1 2017 2018 18 Partidos, 39 Goles (Promedio 2,17) Neymar en Ligue 1 en 2018 2019 17 Partidos 55 Goles (Promedio 3,23) PSG sin Neymar en Ligue 1 2018 2019 21 Partidos 50 Goles (Promedio 2,38) That's the average Goal For of PSG in all Ligue 1 history: https://www.thefinalball.com/team_season.php?comp_id=13&epoca_id=0&ond=&id=127&o= 2017/2018 L'Equipe https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...-la-saison-selon-les-notes-de-l-equipe/903415 Neymar 6.9 (rated as 1º), Luiz Gustavo rated as 2º, 6.06. France Football https://www.francefootball.fr/ligue-1/etoiles/2017-2018/ Neymar 6.35 (rated as 1º), Cavani rated as 2º, 6.25. 2018/2019 L'Equipe https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...force-dans-l-equipe-type-de-la-saison/1022832 Neymar 6.59 (rated as 1º), Mbappe rated as 2º, 6.41 France Football https://www.francefootball.fr/ligue-1/etoiles/2018-2019/ Neymar 6.67 (rated as 1º), Mbappe rated as 2º, 6.33
Not sure the exact definition of a touch Sarri's going for but here's the top 5 league leaders for avg ball contacts per 90 (every non-neutral touch):Prem: Eden Hazard 255Ligue1: Neymar 238Bundes: Thiago 227La Liga: Toni Kroos 222Serie A: Papu Gomez 202📊:@STATSOnThePitch https://t.co/4hDpLNM1cM— Andy Forrester (@AndyForrester1) June 21, 2019