I am tired of Iraqi fans keep repeating the same thing over and over, when we show them the evidence or right argument, they forget it for some reason and keep doing this every week. To let you know the facts and show, you were not completely unbiased, I try to make it clear here. Other than your 2007 AC championship, Iraq has been very poor in senior level in past 3 decades. Your AC record ever: 1972 group stage 1976 4th 1980 withdrew 1984 withdrew 1988 withdrew 1992 - 1996 QF 2000 QF 2004 QF 2007 Champ 2011 QF 2015 4th WCQs: 1974 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: Did not qualify for final round 1978 withdrew 1982 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: Did not qualify for final round 1986 qualified but lost all your three matches - the only time final round of Asian WCQs was regional (1 team from east and one team from west) instead of being continental. Iraq won the Middle East region while Iran and Lebanon refused to play in neutral ground but Iraq didn't. If it was continental competition, there was less chance for Iraq to qualify. 1990 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: Did not qualify for final round 1994 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: 5 matches: 1 win 3 draw 1 lose (4th of the group) 1998 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: Did not qualify for final round 2002 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: 8 matches: 2 win 1 draw 5 lose (4th of the group) 2006 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: Did not qualify for final round 2010 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: Did not qualify for final round 2014 didn't qualify - final round of WCQs: 8 matches: 1 win 2 draw 5 lose (end of the group) We had pretty much the same feeling toward Iraq up to this point. In the contrary it is not the Iraqi team we don't like but the annoying, rude and insulting fans. I personally think Iraq and Oman were the best Arab teams and really hoped them to develop to something more consistent to see happiness on faces of poor war torn Iraqis. (prior to AC 2015). After witnessing Iraqi fans' online reaction and their bitter hatred toward us, I lost all respect for them. Iraqis have been bad mouthing Iranians over the net over and over for a fluke of penalty shoot out! I could understand their mild feeling back in 2011 when we won the match against them and shattered their defending champion dreams, but not this time specially when the match was highly controversial, they played violently (received 7 yellow cards), injured our goalkeeper with a cheap hard contact by Iraqi player Marwan in min 120th to make sure a better penalty performance, and Iranians were defending Iraq from terrorists by every possible mean from military, economy and giving all sort of favors which Ala case prior to this match was one of the favors done by IFF. There is no conspiracy, but since 1978 Iran has been receiving all sort of wrong calls or controversial decisions which purposely or not, has been knocking out Iran from reaching the final of AC. It is also no secret knowledge that AFC is ran by Arab and Chinese faction for past 37 years while Bin Hammam and Jilong being the most corrupted heads of AFC. The only times Iran went down fair and square were in 2000 and 2011 QF vs South Korea. Watch the match again. Pooladi's first yellow card was absolutely wrong. Second yellow card should be given with caution in a match like this. We are not saying Pooladi reaction was right. (in my opinion in a fair match it can be given a yellow card if it is the first card not second) He did exaggerate but after being pushed by Iraqi goal keeper. Exactly the same thing happened to Iran in AC 2004 when Lebanese referee sent our player out for pushing Chinese player who exaggerated his act. Here we saw the double standard of AFC. That Lebanese referee sent two of our players out to make sure Chinese team get an opportunity in penalty kicks. He did the same thing for China vs Indonesia when he sent Indonesian player in min 28 and China scored 4 goals after. Take a look here at min 3:19 for the red card and also look at 4:41 when our best player Ali Karimi was fouled when he passed 3 Chinese defense and got a yellow card! I swear to god if I see that referee I will make a new hole in his backdoor! Ben William didn't even know it was Pooladi's second card otherwise maybe he could avoid it since it changed the dynamic of the match. Many Australians were telling us before the match that we need to be careful with BW and called him a freak, a power hungry maniac in the pitch and many of them despised him for his controversial calls in A-league. Even Australian reporters and commentators said he was wrong in sending Pooladi off the the pitch. He did called against Iranian right goal in group stage vs Bahrain and did a terrible job, so our coach CQ complaines about him on media. Again Australian fans told us BW won't forget this and we will pay for it since BW is a vengeful referee. All of that added to controversy. BW also did some controversial calls against Uzbekistan in favor of KSA. This makes us wonder how come every time he makes a controversial decision it is an Arab team which gets the favor. Now, I know other Arab teams do not give any favor to Iraqis in particular. Let say if there is a match between KSA/Jordan/Kuwait/UAE/Bahrain/Qatar vs Iraq and if there is any controversial situation we know it will be against Iraqi team since they are not fan of your team. Our fans believed the Arab faction of AFC was at work again (we had predicted this to happen since we were in the same group with Qatar (who wanted to give away as much as goal to Uzbekistan to make sure we didn't qualify for WC 2014), Bahrain (Political stand off and their anti football tactics in favor of KSA as always) and UAE (being the less devil of all) ). We defeated them all but we came to the match with Iraq. We knew something might happen in QF because it was the only level that we get knocked out and we knew Arab faction didn't do this for Iraq's sake but to get even with us. (if you accept the behind the door decisions made by AFC ("khaliji" ARAB FOOTBALL CONFEDERATION)). No one can deny the mutual dislike between Iranians and Arabs (specially KSA/Qatar/Bahrain and in less degree UAE). Ben Williams deserved the pressure, the man needs to have a better judgement and stop being a power hungry maniac. He felt the shock and scared to come to Iran for an ACL match! Your hard-earned victory was seen as a fluke helped by a controversial call and never stopping controversial decision in QT against Iran by Iranian fans so the normal reaction is understanding but the Iraqi team respond after the match, Arab faction at work, stupid late report of IFF, and aggressive and offensive reaction of Iraqi fans online and in real life started this BS situation. I saw Iraqi fans insulting Iranians with most sickening racists slurs and some KSA/Bahraini fans pouring fuel on these exchanges! Iranians reacted to Ben William and AFC not Iraqi team at the beginning but later when the saw Iraqi fans reaction, they responded as well. This came at a time Iranian military advisers were dying in Iraq helping Iraqi army against ISIS and Iran sending money, volunteers, weapon, logistics and supplies to Iraqi government and Kurdistan autonomous to push back ISIS while all major neighbors from KSA, Turkey and Egypt stayed out of it and refused to help Iraqis. It was for American air force and Iranian ground forces that Baghdad didn't fall. So this insults by Iraqi fans were seen as ungratefulness of Iraqis. (25 years prior this incident, the 8 years of war that Iraq brought on Iranian territories had ended with millions of death and injuries in both side and bitter taste toward you guys but we forgave you since we blamed it on Saddam not all Iraqis)[/QUOTE] I guess I have gave you enough introduction to this. You can not blame the results without looking into the causes. After watching your fans reaction toward Iranian I did also cheered for South Korea to smash your fantasy as they did. IFF knew about it and Iraqi federation knew it too. IFF send Alaa Abdulzahra test A and B to a fifa lab in Germany. Alaa was a player in Iranian club Tractor Sazi. After his first test came back positive, he was suspended from playing in IPL and he claimed it was wrong but he didn't stay in Iran for test B result to come back while he was still in contract with Iranian team. (all this happened some 6 month prior to AC 2015) Alaa knew he doped so he left Iran without notifying his club or IFF before his test B results came back from the lab. He joined Iraqi team Al Shorta. Later Tractor Sazi and Al Shorta came to a mutual understanding over his departure. IFF reported Alaa's case to Iraqi football federation but I am not sure about reporting to fifa (since our jack ass football federation is run by our government and they wanted to give Iraqis a favor as another fellow shia country in struggle) Iraqi players usually get easy passes in IPL due to Shia regime of Iraq watching over fellow Shia brothers BS. Jasem Karrar is a good example of this. Our own players like Payam Sadeghian or many more get months of suspensions for what Jasim Karrar does in the pitch and still Karrar can get away with it. Insulting and pushing the referee and fighting in the pitch got him suspension from several matches but it was overturned by Shia brothers in IRGC. I don't blame for thinking IFF (Iranian football federation) acted unprofessional after the match. It was a late and lame attempt to restore justice but you can not give favor and get it back later. Alaa did doping in Iran and Iran had the documents, Iraqi federation was aware of this also but I think Iran did not report it officially to fifa. (I can be wrong here since IFF head was saying they did email FIFA about it) So Iraqi team could claim whatever it wanted simply ignoring the fact that they were informed. It was a battle for survival for both Iranian and Iraq federation. Iraqis didn't want to take this happiness from war torn Iraq and Iranian federation wanted to avoid harsh criticism for giving favors to Iraqi players in expense of Iranian team. I remember Iranian youth team won its matches in AFC competition awhile ago but only one insignificant player had two yellow cards from previous matches (not that competition) and didn't know he could not play. Later AFC overturn the results and eliminated Iranian team. Simple as that, so Iran was looking for a desperate attempt to stay in competition. If AFC had accepted the doping it should have give 3-0 to all teams that Alaa played against them in group stage and it would completely ruined the AC 2015 since the QF matches were played. As a result Arab faction gave the Iraqi team the passing card while calling the other unfounded allegations. (it was not allegations it was well documented issue but IFF learn a lesson to not be nice guy in doping cases by giving favor to Iraqis or anybody else for that matter). Not entirely unbiased opinion by your side, so thank you for hearing our side of story as well. And please no more BS by Iraqi fans in this thread. This is for Group D not Iraqi team.
I don't know which idiot deleted my post, but if you had a bit of decency you'd delete the posts of some of the Iranian scum in here. Do your job properly or don't do it at all.
Because all of your posts are about Iraq, which is irrelevant to this thread. Lol @ telling mods how to do their jobs, that was rich. To all self-centred Iraqis like the one above: F*ck off back to the Group F thread. Thank you.
Damn Aroghis are more obsessed with our football than I expected, 90% of the posts in this thread are from them exposing their inferiority complex. Leave and go play with people your size like Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar etc... This isn't Baghdad, as hard as it must be for you guys to understand, it's GROUP D thread
Too much bullshit- thread closed- continue here and keep it on topic: http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/group-d-2018-fifa-wcq-–-afc-second-round-take-2.2022756/