REAL MADRID MANUEL PRAST - PEDRO PARAGES - A. Neyra - A. Giralt - Revuelto - S. ARANGUREN - E. ARANGUREN - Saura - M. Bernabeu - S. BERNABEU - MACHINBARRENA - *RENE' PETIT ( by 1914 ) BARCELONA JOAN GAMPER - PARSONS - Witty - Quirante - STEINBERG - d'Osso' - AMECHAZURRA - Lassaleta - COMAMALA - Greenwell - FORNS - PAULINO ALCANTARA - Peris - Rodriguez - C. Wallace - F.B. SANZ - * RAMON TORRALBA ( by 1914 ) ATHLETIC BILBAO ASTORQUIA - BELAUSTE - PICHICHI - Zuazo
Without sounding too jingoistic, the vast majority of the best players in the pre-war era were British. Given that by 1914 football had been played for 50 years that is probably natural.
Respuesta: Re: Great players before of the Great War ( 1914 ) I'm agree. Some non-English footballers could be: - Nils Middelboe (Denmark) - Bok de Korver (Netherlands) - Imre Schlosser (Hungary)
Re: Respuesta: Re: Great players before of the Great War ( 1914 ) How good was Belgian centre-half Charles Cambier? He became the captain of his NT and was one of the most capped players from his time, despite suffering an injury which sidelined him for two years. The IFFHS says he was considered the best Belgian footballer before World War I, but where woud he rank overall?
I know that, of course. These are some great players of the English teams before of the WW! : ASTON VILLA : Hadgetts, Athersmith, Devey, Garraty, Bache and the immense HARRY HAMPTON EVERTON : Milward, Chadwick, Geary, JACK TAYLOR, Settle, Sharp, ALEX SANDY YOUNG MAN UTD : Cassidy, Wall, Turnbull and the great BILLY MEREDITH LIVERPOOL : Cox, Raybould, Parkinson
I'd be interested to know where you are getting some of these names from. No doubt some very good players here, but (Meredith aside) not sure they're the best. The absolute top players of the pre-war era in England were (and I'm certain to miss quite a few here): Steve Bloomer Vivian Woodward Billy Meredith Bob Crompton G.O. Smith Nuts Cobbold Billy Bassett Sam Hardy Ernest Needham Alex Raisbeck Frank Barson Charlie Roberts Tinsley Lindley John Goodall
I think that at least Harry Hampton must be put in this list. In what clubs played these players of your list ?
Hampton I'm sure was a very good player. In terms of who they played for mainly: Steve Bloomer - Derby County Vivian Woodward - Tottenham Billy Meredith - Manchester United Bob Crompton - Blackburn Robers G.O. Smith - Corinthians Nuts Cobbold - Corinthians Billy Bassett - West Bromwich Albion Sam Hardy - Aston Villa and Liverpool Ernest Needham - Sheffield United Alex Raisbeck - Liverpool Frank Barson - Barnsley and Manchester United Charlie Roberts - Manchester United Tinsley Lindley - Many, including Corinthians, Nottingham Forest, Notts County John Goodall - Derby County
From the list of spanish players. I'd emphasized as really greats the likes of R.Petit (French), Alcantara & Pichichi. But they were more post WWI players
Re: Respuesta: Re: Great players before of the Great War ( 1914 ) From South America: - Charles Miller (Brazil) - Jorge Brown & Harry Hayes (Argentine) - Bolivar Cespedes & Juan Pena (Uruguay)
Re: Respuesta: Re: Great players before of the Great War ( 1914 ) Other europeans: - Jhonny Campbell, Archie Hunter, Jimmy Ross, RC.Hamilton, RS.McColl, Billy McKinnon (Scotland) - John Devey, Jack Southworth, Jim Forrest, Alf Common, Herbert Kilpin (England) - Olphie Stanfield (Ireland) - George Garnier (France) - Fritz Forderer (Germany)
Re: Respuesta: Re: Great players before of the Great War ( 1914 ) Beyond Forderer, for the Germany there are also Gottfried Fuchs, Adolf Jager and eugen Kipp.
Re: Respuesta: Re: Great players before of the Great War ( 1914 ) I must be added "maestro" Jose Piendibene (Uruguay). The best south american player of the ancient times.
Another legend of the Barça before of the Great War was George Pattullo : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pattullo
Albert Sheperd ( Newcastle ), George Holley ( Sunderland ), George Elliot ( Middlesbrough ) and David McLein ( Scotland ).
Like I said before, I'm genuinely interested as to where you are getting these names from as the best pre-WWI British players?
This is a more complete list about the most important Barça players until 1914: JOAN GAMPER - PARSONS - WITTY - QUIRANTE - STEINBERG - OSSO' - AMECHAZURRA - Lassaleta - C. COMAMALA - FORNS - F.BRU SANZ - PERIS - RODRIGUEZ - C. WALLACE - MASSANA - PATTULLO - PAULINO ALCANTARA - GREENWELL - Staub - STEEL - SOLA' ( GK ) - Morales - APOLINARIO - REYNE' ( GK ) - Allack - Macia' - BAU - * RAMON TORRALBA ( by 1914 )
You're right Roy! Though I usually associate Buchan with the inter-war period primarily, hence his omission. Charles Buchan's Football Monthly was a superb publication by all accounts. I've got the reproduction book which came out a couple of years back as well as some old editions.
One of England's really under-appreciated legends (and a REAL gent) due to WWI cutting into his club career and the fact that he didn't get along with several members of the FA ISC, Charlie Buchan: http://www.ozwhitelufc.net.au/leedscityprofiles.php/BuchanCM.php http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ARSENALbuchan.htm http://www.a-love-supreme.com/100 greatest/10-1.htm http://www.charlesbuchansfootballmonthly.com/acatalog/History_the_Man.html Once again, I hope that you will find this information helpful...