Glass Dragons Still Breathe Fire - The Gareth Bale Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Shay Z, Jul 15, 2017.

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  1. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    FAKE NEWS
     
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  2. MaxY

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    May 24, 2016
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    Yeah, in season 2015/16. Doesn't change anything and I still agree with that and that he had 2 terrible seasons. He carried us for a portion of the season but it's Bale. He's unreliable and too injury prone. Hence he didn't even break the league 20 goal barrier.
     
  3. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Ok sure whatever you say. People rewrite history as it fits their current agenda. You go from hero to shit faster... than Bale ran on Saturday for his goal.
     
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  4. Saeta Rubia

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    Lol good find. Won't even bother debating with hypocrites like that from now on. Probably started lying to themselves due to hatred by now. Bale created 2 best chances against City which Ron and Modric couldn't finish. Created the only goal(it wasn't a cross) and hit the woodwork with a header. "Lmao' what an informative reply. He scored a brace in 3-2 win at Rayo after going 2-0 down, only goal at Sociedad etc when Ron was out injured. But no, someone else must have carried the team then.
     
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  5. Shay Z

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  6. Arcticmandaly

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    Your still going on about the same man city game lol. 4 or 5 matches in a 5 year career that stepped up when ronaldo didnt or was injured . 10 goals in bales champions league life time is not carrying shit .
     
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  7. Digital

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    Lol, all this over Gareth, amazing
     
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  8. MaxY

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    May 24, 2016
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    City was 74 matches ago, talk more about it.
     
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  9. S1na

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    Jun 1, 2014
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    If he stays healthy he will be so important this season.
    He already regained his "lost speed due to injuries" in a week.
     
  10. MiamiNative0722

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    May 25, 2013
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    We need to put our support behind him. We are stronger if he is at his best. As much as many people are ready to move on from him, he is here for at least this season, so if you want success now, we have to hope he bounces back and puts in his best season yet.
     
  11. Adder

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    Sep 1, 2016
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    That's such a mute point. What affect does our criticism and lack of hope in Bale have on his performance? Do you think he reads internet forums late a night with tissue paper and an ice cream bucket?
     
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  12. Hendrix22

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    He could be, given that its in English. KD style.
     
  13. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    No he doesn't, but he listens to the jeers in the stadium every time he touches the ball. Mind boggling, I know.
     
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  14. Adder

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    #864 Adder, Sep 20, 2017
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    And that's a completely separate thing. Are we discussing the lack of support of Bale on this forum, or in the stadium during a game? Try to figure that one out first, then come back.

    Let's switch to Spanish quickly then, he won't have a clue what's going on.
     
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  15. Zidane05

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    It's fan support everywhere. If people are shitting their pants here, they'll be shitting their pants there. It's the same type of people that go out of their way to try to harass him at a commercial obligation about his Spanish, or stand outside the parking lot outside the training grounds to hurl insults at him, and probably follow him on social media to mock him there too. Those are the same losers that come on online boards and throw personal insults here.
     
  16. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    ZZ says sometimes the whistling from the fans can be good for you, let's you know they expect more from you and that maybe you need to up your level, different fans support the team they love in different ways, there is no set of rules about how you should support the team you love, for some fans , especially the ones in Spain , unlike some of us, the fact that he allegedly has not assimilated himself by mastering the language may be a problem for them, especially when he is not playing well, who is to say they are wrong for that,

    if you are playing below par fans will whistle it's happened to everyone, no one has been exempt, even better players than Gareth, good players got on with it an improved, even Gareth himself claims to not be too bothered about it, if I do my job poorly, for sure someone will complain and I may even lose work, his enviorment is different but it's what he chose and he understood the consequences that came with it, he's a public figure, in the context it's the same for him as for me, at least it should be,

    if he does his job well most should have nothing to talk about (it's not just fans that are talking about how he is performing or lack of it even his coach recognizes he needs to improve) when it comes to how he is doing his job, he is a grown man and a multi millionaire, I'm not so sure he's all that bothered by the fans as some are here
     
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  17. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    It's not just jeering. It's an obsession. What the ******** does the language he speaks have anything to do with how he's doing on the pitch? And why is it a concern now and wasn't when he was playing well?

    When you're doing a bad job at work, do people show up at a restaurant or a outside in your parking lot to insult you?

    This standard of "no set of rules about how fans support a player" is the type of crap that gets said to validate any type of behavior by fans. There is something called common decency. You can jeer a player, you paid money. But that money doesn't entail you to insult someone.
     
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  18. fierro

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    #868 fierro, Sep 20, 2017
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    Not speaking the language and being able to communicate could be playing a huge role in his performances on the pitch and satisfaction with his overall life in Spain. Of course he's never going to come out and say he's unhappy because the people in Spain refuse to learn English.

    If language, communication and culture are so irrelevant to job performance and quality of life why have most South American players historically chosen to play in Spain and Italy instead of England and Germany? If language and communication don't matter why aren't there any success stories of deaf players?

    And as far as restaurants and service industry type jobs, I'm sure on a regular basis their jobs require them to personally mediate disputes with irate customers. Then there are also customers who use social media and apps like tripadvisor, yelp!, facebook, etc. and post all sorts of criticisms ranging from hairstyle to attitude to the actual product.

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  19. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    If language and communication and culture were so important now, why weren't they important two years ago when he was playing his best football with the club? Or is it only relevant when he is not performing well and we can use it to abuse him?
     
  20. janos audron

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    Apr 12, 2010
    You are repeating the same innuendo and hyperbole. Besides the whistles and other LEGAL behaviour which is quite common at sporting grounds - and its clear why, what exactly else has happened or has been happening regulary? It seems that definition of the word abuse has changed.

    As for restaurant analogy. How can you attempt to equate environment in case of a PRO player being employed by top club in the world and being a part of sports culture which will always be highly polarized - and it is clear as to why, to "common" work is beyond me.

    As for language. It is incredible that in 21. century we are having discussion about importance and impact of language let alone culture. Inability to speak especially in domestic language will have impact on your interaction and integration with specific group. Sure, great character can do wonders, but it cannot mitigate lack of verbal communication. In case of Bale, it was always problematic and alongside other issues a reason of him underachieving in his 5 year stint in RM. If he returns to the island next season and remains healthy, i predict he will have incredible season. Why? Because he will be in familiar environment which suits him best. Fish and chips instead of paella!

    I find whistles and insults given in the heat of the moment - again sports culture whether you like it or no, far less concerning than limiting persons ability to express his opinion.

    Hopefuly Bale has a good match, or i am back posting "granny" porn. I had enough of this.
     
  21. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Where were you pointing out the language issues 2 years ago? Why is it relevant now and it wasn't when he was playing well?

    All of this is normal behavior.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/gareth-bale-abused-real-madrid-11178238
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...l-Madrid-fans-following-defeat-Barcelona.html
    http://www.marca.com/en/2015/03/23/en/football/real_madrid/1427140123.html
    http://www.football-espana.net/45496/madrid-fans-insult-gareth-bale
     
  22. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    It was always relevant as much as i always had certain position about GB players playing in Spain.

    Then you go and produce inherently small sample of events and produce 4 articles in which two depict the same event. Silver lining in all of them is "a few, small group...etc.." I think this is self-explanatory.

    Based on your reporting, i think vast majority of people who have actually experienced abuse would gladly trade place with mr. Bale and his "abuse".

    p.s: No, cretins attacking vehicles is not normal. The same applies for imbeciles who do not understand the idea of privacy and bother players in their spare time.
     
  23. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Sure. Yet it's only been a topic of this thread and the apparent cause of his form since some guy decided to make a video about it.

    So abuse is fine, as long as they don't over do it. Cool, got it.
     
  24. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Guy and the video? Has Benzema again been playing a producer?!?!?! If you are so adamant about my claim simply scroll back in time and see my position about GB players. Its all in black and white. Secondly, i have specifically stated that its not the only factor in his struggles.

    From my perspective any kind of abuse regardless of persons identitiy is not fine as much as putting words in other people`s mouth. Next time actually produce an argument supported by what should be a big sample of actual abuse, instead of shipment of intelectual dishonesty.
     
  25. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    I don't care about what you said before. It's been brought up multiple times by people in this thread now since some channel posted a video with a "psychologist" on it. The point is it wasn't relevant before for the same people that bring it up. If that was your opinion from the start, good for you, but it wasn't for all those people that are making a big deal out of it now. And those are the people who I was talking to before you interjected to tell me the irrelevant fact that it was your opinion from the start.
     

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