NSR: Give me your rested, your rich, privileged White Colombians yearning to post in soccer forums...

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by dapip, Oct 18, 2018.

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My parents/grandparents/great great great grandparents arrived:

  1. They were here when Columbus got lost and hit America

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    11.8%
  2. They arrived in the Mayflower

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    5.9%
  3. They came shackled and got to work in plantations at the sound of a whip

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  4. They arrived through Ellis Island between 1830 and 1950

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  5. They came here as a result of _______________ crisis

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  6. I'm the first one to move here from my country.

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    35.3%
  1. HomietheClown

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    #876 HomietheClown, Jun 3, 2019
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    If you read the first sentence of the first link it says 10% identifies as alt right which is a very ambiguous term. 4% Say they are strong supporters.
    Nowhere does it say they support violence or terror to reach any goals or objectives.

    While Millions of people say that violence can be condoned within the Muslim world as the video pertaining pew research shows.
     
  2. HomietheClown

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    Once again with the second link it says 9% say that neonazi ways is acceptable. Which is also very ambiguous term and has nothing to do with violence.

    Maybe it is implied but I would have to know what those people define as "acceptable".

    Like what? Like acceptable to live their lives as long as they protest peacefully and dont hurt anyone is way different than saying I accept their ideas and their crazy ways.
     
  3. dapip

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    4 to 10% of the US population is literally millions. But sure keep moving the goalposts.
     
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  4. HomietheClown

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    #879 HomietheClown, Jun 3, 2019
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    The goalpost was set at millions who condone terrorism or violence.

    Not a percentage of people who identify with an ambiguous term
     
  5. sidspaceman

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    It is way more then just a few people.
     
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  6. dapip

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    So you not only refuse to do the math, but to acknowledge the violence of the “Alt-right”? I did Nazi that coming.
     
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  7. HomietheClown

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    How do you know?
     
  8. HomietheClown

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    No.
    I refuse to do incorrect math and know that the bigger threat is Muslim terrorism.
     
  9. dapip

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    Yeah, DHS security experts got that wrong. Sorry homie you clearly know better because of your MS in BS. and you killed any opposing argument with your Ben Shapiro video.
     
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  10. sidspaceman

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    how do you know i'm wrong?
     
  11. sidspaceman

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  13. dapip

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  14. HomietheClown

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    #889 HomietheClown, Jun 3, 2019
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    Statistics about White supremacy and violence they condone are two different issues.

    The call for violence and terror is coming from millions of Muslims. That is clear as day.
     
  15. HomietheClown

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    #890 HomietheClown, Jun 3, 2019
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    That is a small percentage of people in the USA who have no clout politically and have no sense morally.
    There's no Western World Main Stream group that believes that White supremacy and the KKK should even be here in the USA let alone be the majority ideology.

    Compared to Millions of Muslims that have extreme views and support either terror or condone it.
     
  16. HomietheClown

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    When you do statistical analysis it is a few people on the fringe of society that have the views of violence in the way the KKK/ White supremacist terrorists posses.

    And (most) of the ones who were a part of the KKK were (or still)l are democrats ironically.
     
  17. HomietheClown

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    I am officially Done with this thread.

    You guys can go continue on with baseless lies about how sayings and idioms can be racist and how a small percentage of weird hillbillies are more dangerous than Millions of people who say jihad bombings are needed.

    I will live in reality and just pray for those in here.
     
  18. dapip

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    “Baseless”




    Fails to provide a single statistic.
     
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  19. dapip

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    “Live in Reality “






    Listens to Ben Shapiro.
     
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  20. dapip

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    Claims the KKK were Democrats.





    Buys himself a MAGA hat.
     
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  21. crzdcolombian

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    Problem with talking about politics is people just go you are an asshole for liking Trump. Why does he like him when he obviously is racist against hispanics or at least uses dislike of us to rally his base.

    While not attacking Homie some of you are doing it in this thread then other ones like the U20 one.

    We aren't getting anywhere by saying trump is a shit president. While those of us who think that are already sold on the idea.

    Its like all 22 of the Democratic candidates are like well lets give black people free money because of slavery. How exactly is that going to work? do all black people get money? Even if you are rich what about if you are blond haired and blue eyed but your dad/mom are black? My best friend is married to a black girl he is Irish he has twins. One has red hair and is white the other is light skinned black. So do they get no money do two of them get money? Do three of them get money?

    Now talking points.

    Democrats just want to give people free shit. How do we pay for it? Tax the rich. This is automatically pisses off people on the right who think they will be taxed because they could be rich in the future. wellfare.... While we should have a safety net for people it shouldn't be forever or a generational system. But how to fix It maybe by paying people a fair wage.

    Lets make college free and forgive all student loan debt. Well I paid for college. I got in to Ivy League schools and went to the school that gave me the most aid. Then I spent first 4 years of my career paying 1-2k in student loan debt to get rid of it. Do I get that money back? Or am I shit out of luck I didn't go on vacation for 4 years like my friends who still owe?

    Now immigration. I don't give a shit about it. I am here. I came here legally and it doesn't effect me in the slightest bit. What I do care about is.... all hispanics are illegals. We are rapist/drug dealer narrative. That does bother me. All immigrants that came to the US is because they had no choices back home. My uncles and aunts who are doctors in Barranquilla and Bogota didn't want to move to the US and still don't.

    now going back to the race thing. I think many Colombians who are white and can pass maybe are not empathic to Central Americans or Mexicans. Its well I don't look like them so they aren't talking about us.
     
  22. sidspaceman

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    Rotflmao

    Bullshit
     
  23. dapip

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    Technically, he’s correct, but that’s a right wing talking point used when a racist is cornered.

    The KKK started mostly as democrats, but then they switched parties because Nixon catered to them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
     
  24. dapip

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    It's a cult. He's beyond redemption. I do it for the kicks.

    Funnily enough, there's some hope. Some Republicans are waking up to the idea that Trump is not a good president and a terrible person. Some are learning that the Mueller report does not exonerate him, so I think we need to keep up saying again and again that Trump is an idiot and a terrible one at being president.

    Link or it didn't happen.

    Actually if we had a most progressive taxing system and a higher minimum wage, most poverty will be gone in a generation or two. The problem is that in the US we have decided that wealthy people is more worthy and knows how to invest their money and create jobs. That is the bullshit you are against and hence, raising taxes in like 10k or 100k people becomes an apocalyptic measure. It will take some work but we could very well pay for a lot of things, taxing relatively few people at a rather rational rate (lets say 70% of income over 10 million).

    This is not about you. It's about people who is getting into school with the promise of a better life, incurring in thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, and then kicked out to the real world, where low wages make them basically indentured servants for the next 20 or 30 years, hindering not only them, but the economy in general, since they have to postpone every big expenditure in order to pay their loans. And the cost of forgiving debt and making some public college free would be rather modest, like half of what the Trump tax cuts are costing us, plus a tenth of the defense budget.

    Actually the system was kind of broken but Trump accelerated its demise. We definitely need to overhaul the system, invest in migration and provide a path to citizenship, because in comparative terms, the US is becoming older and less populated than Asia or Africa, so we actually do need more people to come, not only the "right kind of people".

    Delusional. Somehow they have hitched themselves to the Trump train, without realizing that the white nationalists will unhinge their wagon once they're no longer useful.
     
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  25. crzdcolombian

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    Sort of about me

    Make good decisions

    You don’t have to go to college. Especially if your job doesn’t make money. I have cousins who are Plummer’s and electricians and are rich. They didn’t go to college but are really hard working and willing to do jobs others are not. I have friends who are roofers. Democrats make it sound like those people are stupid.

    Some want to make to make college free but what about those who didn’t go. Aren’t you taxing those people? I am fine with it being cheaper if you do certain task like work at a non profit, go to the military or to a underserved community. My friends wife went to Harvard law school and went to work as a public defender and they paid for her schooling.

    There needs to be a 3rd party that’s is somewhere in the middle. Someone who is socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Republicans talk about being fiscally conservative but that is only when democrats are in power. I am all for socially liberal but we can’t keep shaming people for not being it. Not thinking that the world has 70 pronouns now doesn’t make you an asshole or the devil.

    Going hey I don’t want a guy who is now a kid woman going in the bathroom with my kid. Fine it’s idiotic but you aren’t changing these peoples mind why lose an ally by only focusing on this.

    You have poor white people who society fks over then you are like well fk you. You aren’t black, brown or gay. So we don’t give a shit about you and want you to apologize for being white.
     

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