It has to do with social and economic mobility, the US had relatively high mobility but since the 80s has been decreasing to the point it is almost at monarchical levels. This is more poor shaming. A lot of working people is in social programs because a. they cannot afford to live without assistance, and b. because we have built a lot of working requirements into welfare. Or you have two parents or one parent that work 2 and 3 jobs, can't make ends meet and don't have time to help you with anything, not to mention that probably you will be shamed at school for getting food assistance and wearing raggedy clothes. Or shame the poor for being poor. So when you start to study you are required to know what you're going to get paid in 2 or 4 years? Or if you don't study, can you compete with Pete the Barista with the masters degree? True, a lot of kids make poor choices, but it is not as simple as they getting on a sick loan because they wanted to study some unprofitable career. College education has become too expensive and a bachelors degree is the minimum requirement for jobs that only pay 40k or 50k per year, so we as a society need to tackle both, our education inflation and stagnant salaries. Just for information purposes, here is an income vs tuition costs graph:
It has to do with social and economic mobility, the US had relatively high mobility but since the 80s has been decreasing to the point it is almost at monarchical levels. This is more poor shaming. A lot of working people is in social programs because a. they cannot afford to live without assistance, and b. because we have built a lot of working requirements into welfare. Or you have two parents or one parent that work 2 and 3 jobs, can't make ends meet and don't have time to help you with anything, not to mention that probably you will be shamed at school for getting food assistance and wearing raggedy clothes. Or shame the poor for being poor. So when you start to study you are required to know what you're going to get paid in 2 or 4 years? Or if you don't study, can you compete with Pete the Barista with the masters degree? True, a lot of kids make poor choices, but it is not as simple as they getting on a sick loan because they wanted to study some unprofitable career. College education has become too expensive and a bachelors degree is the minimum requirement for jobs that only pay 40k or 50k per year, so we as a society need to tackle both, our education inflation and stagnant salaries. Just for information purposes, here is an income vs tuition costs graph:
I don't disagree with all here but you can't paint all this with the same wide brush. Poverty is also 'inherited' and it can be a formidable task to escape from the grips of poverty even for families that have some type of positive semblance. The issue for me is being in that upper middle class bracket doesn't help manage/mitigate some of the risks I take/have taken to provide my family with a financially supportive system. Take your scenario, "don't go to a 50k a year school"...completely agree. I have a daughter entering HS. She's a solid A student and will likely graduate top 10% of her class and with solid SATs/ACTs she will probably have lots of great choices. She doesn't want to be a plumber or an electrician and I dont blame her as you should be interested in what you're going to pursue for the rest of your life. NO ONE really knows what the hell they want to do at 18 anyway. But even our state school (Rutgers) is currently at $32k (before all expenses) and that's in-state fees. They provide need based aid only (you have to make <$85k to qualify), . Merit based scholarships are rarely/minimally awarded at any of the top schools in the northeast, so at best we'll be forking out $32k per year, which means clearing about $50k in gross income to cover that bill. That's insane that I will need to earn ~$200k to cover a 4 year cost of a public state school. I don't mind a small loan but having carried some huge student debt I know how hard it can be to just swim out of that hole. My kids don't need to have that huge burden. So either we earn very little as a family for this area, less than $85k, which would only help us afford to live in some of the worst neighborhoods with horrible public schools that wont really help my kids get a solid education and have a negative effect in standardized tests and college admissions OR you make a solid living as a dual income family but pay the highest taxes to live in a good neighborhood and be 100% responsible for forking over a huge chunk of money over a short amount of time with no guaranteed ROI. Oh and we have two other kids behind her. That bubble will have to burst soon. The system is rigged and fried for all except the very very wealthy.
big difference in your argument @dapip is we're a few years ahead of Mr Czd so he doesnt get it yet .When those kiddie bills start to mount and you realize you're never saving enough, it'll be a rude awakening.
Wow bro that’s scary!!! I mean, I’m no stranger to the picture but things seem comparably good in Florida in the middle of the road scenario. My best friend’s son is graduating this year and I’ve been syphoning information and Florida ain’t that bad, although not cheap. Here the in state tuition to public universities is about 12k per year with more or less a similar costs for room and boarding. Assuming we stay in about the same income bracket, plus our yet to start college savings, I think that amount would be manageable (prepaid tuition plans plus some cutting and trimming). But for most other families, saving for college and/or forking out extra money for food and rent are probably impossible as it is now.
The end of democracy: ‘Mitch McConnell Reassures Hannity: Don Jr. Subpoena Will ‘Have a Happy Ending’’@senatemajldr ‘said the “good news” is that Burr has “already indicated that the committee will find no collusion’ 😑https://t.co/Ji2quuGyvi— RynheartTheReluctant (@TheRynheart) May 10, 2019
I hereby call for total and complete shutdown on the word “Washington,” which both ignores the issue of asymmetric polarization AND materially aids the GOP by serving up their chief talking point that “Washington is broken” and government is disfunctional. 1/ https://t.co/6beZwD0g1b— Lawrence Glickman (@LarryGlickman) May 12, 2019
It would be really helpful for journalists reporting on Barr's unhinged attempts to drum up a there there to note:1) HILLARY was also under CI investigation, one conducted in the press.2) HILLARY was also investigated based off oppo research, Clinton Cash. https://t.co/1pCJDiCZxl— emptywheel (@emptywheel) May 17, 2019
Fvck you Confederate States of Misogyny: I don't know who made this,but it's brilliant. pic.twitter.com/kmWr1V2IUp— Jay Kuo (@nycjayjay) May 17, 2019
Republican senators meet with Jared Kushner – and conclude he’s clueless: ‘He’s in his own little world’ https://t.co/95kCbT9Box— Raw Story (@RawStory) May 17, 2019
On why voting in every election is important: https://www.motherjones.com/politic...g-voter-suppression-abortion-heartbeat-bills/
Amazing thread from Amash: People who say there were no underlying crimes and therefore the president could not have intended to illegally obstruct the investigation—and therefore cannot be impeached—are resting their argument on several falsehoods:— Justin Amash (@justinamash) May 20, 2019
54% of voters say they will "definitely not vote" for Donald Trump in 2020, according to Quinnipiac https://t.co/2aJAcrmzsy via @TPM— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 21, 2019
Rep. Katie Porter: "Do you know what an REO is?" Secretary Ben Carson: "An Oreo?"Porter: "No, not an OREO. An REO. R-E-O."Carson: "Real estate?"Porter: "What's the 'O' stand for?"pic.twitter.com/9dTw0xtNRm— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 21, 2019
The problem is that 45% will still vote for him, and another 3 to 6 % will think of their vote as too important to waste it on democracy. That plus the electoral college and the GOP attacking voting rights and we’re nowhere near a safe margin.
Whenever anyone tells you that Fox is a news station, show them this clip: Brian Kilmeade says critics of Trump's plans to pardon war criminals "believe the wrong story" and "have not listened to [the war criminals'] side." Tomi Lahren adds that the outrage "just shows where their priorities are. It's always been terrorists over American warfighters." pic.twitter.com/nKQ7xlfqfl— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) May 22, 2019
Or this: We are under minority rule.Trump lost by 4 million votes.Senate dems got 12 million more than GOP.In 2016, GOP got 21 more seats than expected in proportion of vote because of gerrymandering.GOP stole one SCOTUS seat.Dems dont have to just win. They have to win by blowout.— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) May 21, 2019
Or they can stop being little bitches Reading about the Sprint - T-Mobile merger 3/5 people deciding are Republican and 1 picked by Obama. The other 2 are democrats. Wtf did Obama put a republican in power Supreme Court. Obama wanted a centrist judge. Republicans didn’t let him pick him. Who do republicans pick? A guy who raped girls in high school and a guy who thought a employee should die waiting for help to not lose his cargo. So it’s tough to feel bad for democrats when they are pussys. And let the republicans steal their lunch money and still go no we need to play fair Republicans chooses child molestors and dudes who get prostitutes. A Democrat makes a joke 20-30 years ago that offends some over sensitive liberal and they need to step down. Democrats expect a Jesus level savior candidate Republicans are happy with someone as long as they aren’t a democrat and don’t raise their taxes. They are too stupid to realize they are voting against their own self interest and that a tariff is a tax
I'm sure your narrative applies to a section of the voters, but just to go around one fact, the election was decided in 4 states by less than 200k votes (or 3 and less than 100k if you exclude FL), while there was voting suppression, misinformation and probably Russian hacking at several levels. So yeah, some Dems look for perfection, while most republican voters will even take the tax hike (or a recession) as long as they can get abortion bans or the racist wall, but that the system is rigged against democrats (and that they're to blame to an extent) is a reality that we have to deal with.
Infrastructure Week: Two Democratic sources familiar with the WH / Dem meeting tell NBC News: pic.twitter.com/7CuGtvsOrH— Alex Moe (@alexmoeflo) May 22, 2019
by summarily announcing he won’t do business w/Democrats until they stop investigating him, Trump negates his ability to complain that they won’t do business w/him— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) May 22, 2019
So Presidential: Why not just put up a sign on the podium saying, “I am a loony tune”? https://t.co/RuWO3ccV4M— George Conway (@gtconway3d) May 22, 2019
I bet Tillerson knows how to spell "Accomplishments". Just saying... https://t.co/azxSwXhp9k— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) May 23, 2019
President of United States shares edited video to suggest Speaker of the House has a speaking problem https://t.co/bQQov5LZW4— Manu Raju (@mkraju) May 24, 2019