Giovinco

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  1. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
  2. JuventusMVP

    JuventusMVP New Member

    Jan 19, 2015
    Italy
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    Juventus FC
    Don't know if it was already posted somewhere else; anyway, nice vid:

     
  3. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    Canada
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  4. RetreadFC

    RetreadFC Member

    Sep 8, 2008
    Oshawa
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm pretty sure that bringing in Giovinco was, in addition to his skill, a marketing venture aimed at tapping into the largely untapped Italian market. No coincidence that TFC II is playing in Vaughan, Ont. as well.
    that aside, if Giovinco can adapt well to his new surroundings, I'm pretty optimistic about this move.
     
  5. torontofcmark

    torontofcmark Member

    Oct 24, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    its only been 8 years for someone at TFC to "tap" into the Italian football bag and come up with something...not only to appease the largely untapped Italian market as you say (I can honestly say that there are tons of season seat holders for TFC from the Italian community..and most are between the 35 yard lines so not the cheap seats either). I say its about time not only for selfish reasons but we do provide some talent out of the boot country.
     
  6. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    For those who are unfamiliar with Giovinco's career, he was mismanaged big time at Juventus. His time at Parma was epic as he carried that team and earned back his spot on the NT. He has played for the NT recently despite hardly playing for Juve and was a game changer. His talent and creativity are like nothing MLS has seen before.
    Good job MLSE. And for once I'm not saying that sarcastically.
     
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  7. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I am not sure why there have been no Italians signed before and I hope the signing has more to do with talent than passport (not naive enough to think that this - or any international signing - is not some part of both).

    What I do know, however, is that this is not a problem unique to TFC within MLS. For such a footballing power....Italy has been a very small provider of talent to MLS in general and not just TFC.

    If wiki can believed....prior to this season 12 Italian players have played in the league....just 12. The number gets even lower if you take out Montreal Impact. Outside of the Impact, 6 Italian players have come to MLS prior to this year. Is it surprising that so few Italians have come here....sure.......but is it another TFC problem? Doesn't look like it.
     
  8. EvilTree

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    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
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    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    before Nesta, it didn't feel like Italian players cared much about MLS. so it's a mutual thing.

    I suppose we can also ask why so few German or Dutch or any ethnic players are represented in MLS
     
  9. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Yes you could....but the post I replied to (and some conversations I have had with fans of Italian soccer) seemed to suggest that there was a "problem" unique to TFC in the lack of signing of, specifically, Italian players.

    I think, and as you point out, I believe there has been league wide difficulty in attracting non-english language players from all of the top Euro footballing nations.

    Obviously I have no idea how much effort was put in (ie. is this the players spurning efforts or were they just never wooed/recruited?) but the numbers do speak and it certainly is not a unique TFC issue.
     
  10. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
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    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The only nationality that matters to me are how many Canadians are playing at TFC/Impact/VWFC.
     
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  11. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

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    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
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    Toronto FC
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    Canada
    but Lombardo and Dichio! ;)
     
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  12. Deleted User x

    Deleted User x Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    Giovinco didn't get called into the NT for this round of games. That means he plays against RSL.
     
  13. Deleted User x

    Deleted User x Member+

    Mar 21, 2006
    For the second time this year the Atomic Ant is named MLS player of the week. He is already tied for the franchise record for assists in a season with 6. And to think he wasn't even supposed to be here until July. This is all bonus time for us TFC fans.
     
  14. RobinVanRobben

    May 1, 2014
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    ....and he is just so damn dreamy.
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Tanti auguri a Giovinco! My compliments to Seba, he is playing excellently! :thumbsup:

    Calling Antonio Conte............
     
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  16. RobinVanRobben

    May 1, 2014
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    I fear for the double teaming, out muscling and leg chopping that is going to plague every step he takes on the pitch from now on.
     
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  17. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    For the second week in a row, and the third time so far this season, Giovinco is named MLS player of the week.
     
  18. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I think Mr. Conte should know that, in the humble opinion of Toronto FC supporters, Giovinco really is not playing very well, is a bit sluggish, lacking in creativity and was probably offside on all the goals he has scored. Certainly not worthy of an international call up where he would escape his exile to North America for spells of time. ;) ;)
     
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  19. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If Antonio Conte picked him while he was on the bench at Juventus, I see no reason on why he can not be picked while being the starring player in MLS...also don't see how he could be a detriment to the national team.......
     
  20. TFCSteve

    TFCSteve Member

    Apr 16, 2007
    Toronto
    See, the nice thing about our team this year is, even if a team tries that, it might backfire. Think about it, if Gio has the ball, how many people are you going to need to throw at him to mark him out of the game? From my point of view, he has a skillset that is incredibly hard to defend against. He's small, quick, and very good on the ball. That makes it hard to mark him out of a game entirely. He seems to beat 2 easily enough, so you need at least 3. Now, what is marking Gio with 3 guys going to do to their defensive shape? If he can drag 3 of their defenders out of position, the combination of Bradley and Altidore is just going to tear opposing teams apart.

    Fouling him is another story, but short of actually injuring him (and I really hope MLS refs and the league is smart enough to shut that down) that's another risky move. Gio gets the ball in your attacking third. Now, you either bring him down and give him a shot at a free kick on net (and we know how dangerous he can be there) or play clean and risk getting beaten.

    Don't get me wrong, teams will start to figure him out, I just don't think he's the sort of player that's necessarily easy to adapt to, even if you have studied his tapes for weeks (and I'm sure opposing coaches are already trying do do that).
     
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  21. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Mr. Conte should, rightfully, fear that he has lost his ability to communicate in Italian and is now fully uni-lingual in English and his lack of Italian language skills would wreck Italy's chances of Euro qualification. Leave in Canada and don't risk the future of the great footballing nation of Italy's chances. :) ;)
     
  22. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    #23 Deleted User x, Jun 13, 2015
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    I see your sarcasm detector is broken.
     
  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I was not being sarcastic at all. Giovinco would be much better than Astori for example who supposedly was horrible against Croatia!
     
  24. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    TOareaFan was being sarcastic.
     

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