Germany - South Korea I-- 27 June --I 3rd Group Game

If that is true that Sule and hummels at the back with a 4-2-3-1 formation and a high line then lol, this is recipe for desaster korea have pace unlike Sweden

 

Sule isn’t quick ?? What??

People should watch more games... yes he looks big n clumsy but he is very fast

 

I don't think there actually was a culture fit problem with Sane and just think that was one of the excuses used because Jogi refused to leave behind his beloved Draxler. I think that's why they suddenly started playing up what a "good soldier" Brandt was last summer.

I'm also skeptical about whether the players actually feel divided from Ilkay & Mesut, as that seems more like a media-driven narrative...as that seems to be annoying everyone in the team; which, if anything, is more likely to bring them together to shut those outsiders up *shrug*

And the Boateng stuff is silly to me & sounds like your typical "old white man shouts at cloud" stories for the folks who remember when footballers didn't have tattoos, colored cleats, personal interests, or disposable income for anything other than booze & women.


But time will tell, we're all just speculating as most real stories that expose the inner-workings of a NT don't get fully sussed out until long after a particular tourney has ended...even in our modern 24-hour news age.

 

Lol, his initial burst isn't quick at all, that's the telling factor, he may be able to recover ground over a distance but that initial burst against a quick player hes no chance

 

Highline, 4-2-3-1

When will he learn?

This game we can play 343 with more counter attacks. Because Korea need 3 points n might go aggressive

 

Recorded as the 2nd fastest sprinter in Bayern Munich

 

Haven't read that yet, but it makes sense. It's a similar idea as to why I'm so insistent in replacing one of our 50 AM/W/SSs with a 3rd CB or 8. Having one less body to crowd things on the edge of the box and another body starting from much deeper should have similar effects.

 

Is this definitely true?, I'm really surprised about that

 

Like Rudiger is a left footed CB like Hummels and Sule is right footed like Boateng

 

2014 - Erik Durm, you can check it through Wikipedia.

 

Good thing we brought Draxler, Plattenhart, Khedira, Rüdiger & Ginter along instead of Sane, Gotze/Dahoud, Weigl/Meyer, Kramer & Vogt...

All of the above & also in a 4. Tedesco used a lot of 3-1-4-2 / 3-4-2-1 / 3-4-1-2 shapes and Leon played all over. He played as part of the deeper duo...especially after Meyer was banished for refusing an extension a well...and part of the more advance duo. He played as an 8/10 this year and should be able to take turns going forward with Ilkay if we played the two of them in front of Toni.

NO! I'll defend Ginter's play at CB this season, at least in relation to Rüdiger's, but he was brutal anywhere but CB for BMG...despite the goal he scored that kirsten keeps bringing up.

We should just play a back three if Jogi doesn't trust a Kroos / Gundogan / Goretzka midfield trio.

Khedira needs to join Draxler in sharing the Poldi role from the last world cup of human victory cigar.

Nonsense, if Jogi did that, then we might actually start scoring like we should be!

I still attribute the failure of 2016 more to france being able to isolate Can in possession and force him into cheap turnovers that launched deadly counters for them.

Our wastefulness didn't help, but if we didn't have those cheap give aways we could've at least taken it to ET or pens if we continued to waste chance after chance.

 

I'm of the opinion to bench Mueller and put on Goretzka. And people before the World Cup started thought Mueller had a shot to beat Klose goal scoring record.

 

Ginter was brought for FB cover and nothing else.

 

I dunno about that, many of us suspect that Jogi has been thinking about using a back 3 like he has in qualifying. And if Jogi did that we'd only have 1 backup CB unless Ginter is considered an option there as well...even if he is 5th choice in a back 4.

Plus why wouldn't Rudy have been planned as the backup RB? At least before our midfield showed that it needed him if Jogi continues to refuse to play toni, ilkay & leon in a trio.

Do you know what distances those were over? I can believe that he has a high top speed, but his first 5-10 yards often appear quite labored.

 

According to Bild Reporters

Ginter actually showed a lot of promises at RB during training. Brings more balance and helped the team in both ways (defence and offence)

 

lol, Jogi really does love the CB at FB. At least this could let Kimmich play his natural 6 position if Jogi really was dumb enough to start Ginter in his stead at RB.

 

where's Mustafi and Howedes when you need them?

had Brandt scored those 2 shots that hit the post he would be our top scorer. Lol at how months ago so many here hated his guts. Now he's injecting tons of energy to our side in the 2nd half and is doing well.

 

lol I totally forgot that Schweini's corpse was on the pitch for that as well...god damn was that a hideous midfield. With the issues we had at CB as well, our possession game was just so damn vulnerable.

That tourney is why I gripe so much about who Jogi picks for those final roster spots. Yes it was nice being able to take Poldi along to make jokes in practice in 2014; but quite often you find that you need those guys to also be able to play without slowing down our game & exacerbating our weaknesses with cheap turnovers.

That's why I'm still annoyed that Jogi brought Draxler, Khedira, Plattenhart, Rüdiger & Ginter when we could have Sane, Weigl/Meyer, Gotze/Dahoud, Kramer, & Vogt to call upon instead.

That was always so weird to me. Draxler is the waste of space winger on this team, not Brandt. I want Brandt & Sane to be starting for us at the euros.

I wish Jupp wanted to manage the NT since the workload is so much easier than a club trainer faces. Him or Ragnick might be my favorites to replace Jogi if we look at the guys who have the reputation for the association to approach now that we're back at the top, but who are old enough that they might be willing to try their hand at the international game. Unlike younger coaches who are just too good to leave club football any time soon...i.e. Nagelsmann, Tuchel, and (to a lesser extent) Kloppo.

Granted I do think Klopp will want to manage the NT whenever his time with Liverpool comes to a close, but I don't think that will be for a few more cycles yet.

 

I’m sorry but I believe Hector will become a non factor for the NT considering his choice to stay at Köln
it’s time for Max now

 

Max isn't a NT caliber player or prospect. I know I know, stats, but he has zero experience defending up the pitch or maintaining/cycling possession. And we would need to start both Gomez & Wagner up front while Max took all of the corners & set pieces for him to be of any use to the NT.

Gian Luca Itter will take over at LB soon enough, and until then Klostermann & Henrichs can push Hector for the job...maybe Mittelstadt, or even Kimmich with Weiser coming in on the right.