Germany - South Korea I-- 27 June --I 3rd Group Game

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by White/Blue_since1860, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. Lewisfromuk

    Lewisfromuk Member

    Bayer Leverkusen
    Germany
    May 15, 2018
    any news on his nose injury?
     
  2. Dage

    Dage Moderator
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    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Learnt from Bierhoff that Rudy most likely needs a little surgery. But everybody who had more than just a little nosejob knows what that means. You feel uncomfortable and unsafe for weeks. Even with painkillers and a mask, the first ellbow or back of the head flying around your nose will make you hide back. Your point of view is limited as well as you ability to sprint (hurts badly, believe me you probably can't breathe through nose as well). What may work in a setup for club football 2 or 3 weeks after such an injury but with a well oiled club team supporting the injured player, I just can't see Rudy playing in this crucial game.

    I had a similar, probably a bit worse injury of nose and stayed 10 days at the hospital. Couldn't breathe through nose for a week due to surgery. Couldn't turn my head or even smile without bleeding out of nose again.

    I'd rather see Goretzka or Özil playing.
     
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  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    By media idiots
     
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  4. Lewisfromuk

    Lewisfromuk Member

    Bayer Leverkusen
    Germany
    May 15, 2018
    it is shame if he miss the rest of the tournament, he is really the best partner for Kroos, whenever I see them playing together, they always dominate the midefield. For some strange reasons, Kroos and Rudy just have the chemistry which other players Goretzka, Guangdoan don't have
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    #55 The Jitty Slitter, Jun 25, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2018
    So suddenly Low's squad selection is looking pretty stupid

    If Rudy is out, there is no other defensively minded midfielder in the squad.

    Khedira is the only other guy who can play as genuine 8 for a double pivot type system but can he be relied on? Or Can goretzka be trusted with that role?

    Gundo is a much more offensively minded 8 - suited to a 3.

    But luckily Low has large numbers of attacking midfielders at his disposal :p
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Kroos will have to play at 6 with 2CMs ahead of him if Rudy is out for 2 weeks

    If Khedira isn't up to it then I guess Goretzka is coming in
     
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  7. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Why can't rudiger not play as a holding midfielder or sule
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    How does Goretzka play for Schalke?

    in a 2 or a 3?
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    :ROFLMAO:

     
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  10. Lewisfromuk

    Lewisfromuk Member

    Bayer Leverkusen
    Germany
    May 15, 2018
    Rudiger definitely not, never play in holding midfielder. Sule might be, but I am not convinice he can play better in that role than Rudy, Kroos needs someone who can do some dirty defense work for him, but also a good passer and decent ball distributor, Rudy is best suit for that role
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    As Honigstein indicates, the "real football men" have never liked Low and this team

    Remember that in 2012 these same people claimed the leaders of the team like Schweini, Ozil, Mueller, Poldolski and Lahm were a generation of losers
     
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  12. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...mels-trainiert-wieder-rudy-pausiert-wohl.html

    Hummels is training fully again and should be able to play. Rudy will be reassessed again on Wednesday by the team doctors if he's able to play with a mask on. The decisive factor will be whether game time would cause any further health risks.

    Rudy is doubtful for the South Korea match and probably won't play, but don't think it's serious enough to cause him to be out for weeks.

    Likeliest scenario I see Jogi going with is Gündogan starting in his place. But I wouldn't mind seeing Goretzka getting a chance to start. If needed, Ginter could also be another option for more of a holding defensive presence who I think is more suitable than Rüdiger or Süle as DM.
     
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  13. Rac93

    Rac93 Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 29, 2017
    If we beat Korea 1-0 and Sweden beats Mexico 2-1 we out?
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    See post 1 ;)

    Germany really need to win 2:0 or better to make sure
     
  15. Lewisfromuk

    Lewisfromuk Member

    Bayer Leverkusen
    Germany
    May 15, 2018
    they better do not make the same mistake in the first match again, underestimating the difficulty of the task and opponent's determination. beating S Korea by 2 goal is never a easy task. need to treat it as a final and give it all
     
  16. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    They just gave a widely held view an accurate description
     
  17. Lewisfromuk

    Lewisfromuk Member

    Bayer Leverkusen
    Germany
    May 15, 2018
    I doubt very much "dead frog" is widely held view, it is personal attack, anyone with decency should not have this view, by the way, Ozil was part of the team won the world cup for Germany 4 years ago, he did make contribution both during the qualification and the final..so regardless what happen this time, he deserves respect nothing else from the German public. people having this view should be shame of themselves
     
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  18. shap_half

    shap_half Member+

    Oct 17, 2010
    New York
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    For those who can't be bothered to look it up, here's an explanation of group scenarios in English:

    http://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-wor...mutations-who-can-qualify-for-the-round-of-16

    This is one of the more complicated groups because of how few goals have been scored. But the bottom line is if Germany wants to have full control of their destiny in terms of qualifying for the KO stages, they need to win by two goals. By winning by two goals, Germany's goal differential would best whoever they're tied with because no one else has won a game with a two-goal cushion yet. Anything less than winning by two goals, Germany's progress would be based on how the Mexico/Sweden match plays out. But there are so many "what ifs" involved that you'll have to consult the link.
     
  19. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Lol dude whatever. They threw bananas at Kahn during his playing days.

    Im still waiting for that criminal code paragraph btw. Your lesson in what you think is good morale at least will not suffice
     
  20. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Not that anyone could not be expected to make up the meaning of the table included in post 1 in a Germany forum.
     
  21. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    You're leading the avatar game this time around :thumbsup:
     
  22. wallstreet123456

    Nov 2, 2005
    NYC
    Werner caused a lot of problems for Sweden in the second half playing on the left side.

    I am hoping Muller does not start.
     
  23. shap_half

    shap_half Member+

    Oct 17, 2010
    New York
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Posters keep asking so here it is in plain speak in the language of the forum.
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I missed this but it is very good on the spacing issues and explains why Germany can't counter press properly


     
  25. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Forgot to add a poll to the thread:


    Who should start vs South Korea?

    a, Berome Joateng
    b, guy who went rubbing it into Swedish bank
    c, sack of potatoes

    You decide!
     

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