Germany - Italy (R)

Discussion in 'Euro 2016' started by nirvaanfc, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. nirvaanfc

    nirvaanfc Member

    Jan 13, 2004
    Trinidad & Tobago
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    https://footballfutbolcalciosoccer.blogspot.ca/2016/06/euro-2016-round-of-16-review-best-xi.html

    A matchup worthy of the final, given these have been the two best sides at the tournament thus far - hopefully not a poisoned chalice given the Croatian fate. These are the two premier tournament teams in Europe - between them they have amassed 8 World Cup wins and 4 Euro wins, not to mention the numerous times they have ended as runners-up at major tournaments.

    On paper, Germany has the better team and are deserving of their tag as favourites. They boast world class players in every position and have a number of players who have been played with the national team at numerous major tournaments whilst also boasting a healthy crop of young up-and-coming talent. The Italians came into the tournament with relatively low expectations, but Conte has galvanized a group of players to perform fantastically well as a team. They have already caused two upsets and will be looking to keep it going.

    A fact that has been highlighted repeatedly is an intriguing one, in that Germany has never beaten Italy in a competitive match. The last two matchups were in the semi-final of World Cup 2006 in Germany (Italy 2-0 Germany) and in the semi-final of Euro 2012 (Italy 2-1 Germany). Could the Italian hoodoo continue? Or will the Germans finally conquer their Italian curse?
     
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  2. Athena16

    Athena16 Red Card

    Jun 29, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I think this is the actual final. Hard to see all these players on a yellow and Uefa just waiting to ban them to help France get into the final
     
  3. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Country:
    Gibraltar
    Gianni Rivera 1970 :



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    Oh you poor Germany ... lol ... Porca miseria
     
  4. BorisG

    BorisG Member

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Country:
    Germany
    Germany have never beaten Brasil either.... until ? Do you know the answer to that ?
     
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  5. InsigneForBalonD'or

    Jul 16, 2014
    The 6ix
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Country:
    Canada
    I would not be surprised if Germany beat us, they are without a doubt the strongest team in the tournament and world. This is probably Italy's weakest every team but Conte has us playing extremely well together. Wouldn't be surprised to see this game go to extra time either. If we can beat Germany (which would be the biggest upset of the tournament considering how strong Germany is) I think we will end up winning the tournament. We'll see what happens, Germany is stronger than Spain and Belgium so this will for sure be the biggest test. France has had it easy so far always being the outright favourites but if they play Italy/Germany they are no longer favourites (or by as much at least) so I think they may cave under the pressure.

    I still see Germany winning the Euro's but if there is any team who is capable of beating them at the moment, it's us.
     
  6. mattteo

    mattteo Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Country:
    Italy
    Yeah, a whopping one game in world cup history plus a couple in a glorified friendly tournament...very significant sample size...
     
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  7. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Country:
    Germany
    confederation cup as well
     
  8. Athena16

    Athena16 Red Card

    Jun 29, 2016
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I doubt Italy will ever collapse in defense and pull a Brazil. Their tactical discpline and mental strength basically rules out such a scenario
     
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  9. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Country:
    Germany
    Italy beat the holders. They have the record. They're the favorites
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    I don't think its that cut and dry. Germany haven't looked that much better than France, imo. Italy has looked better than both but they wouldn't be the first team that looked great in the first 2 weeks of a major tournament that didn't win it.

    Also, aren't the yellow cards cleared now? So the only way to get suspended for the semifinal is to get a red in the QF...
     
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  11. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Country:
    Germany
    No cleared after the qf
     
  12. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Country:
    Gibraltar
    One thing I'd have to say is that the one time that Buffon/Chiellini/Bonucci/Barzagli did sort of collapse in the last couple of years was in the Juve-Bayern Munich tie this past season. They lost 6-4 on aggregate. Especially the 2nd game they gave up a goal in stoppage time and 2 more goals in extra time.

    Obviously Bayern is not the same thing as Germany, but something to keep in mind.
     
  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Oh, wow! That's absurd! Two yellows in 5 games and a player could miss the biggest match of his int'l career? :alien:

    Should be one round earlier imo. Then almost every player would play in both the semi and the final (unless of course they get a red or are booked in both the QF and the SF, in which case they sorta deserve a suspension)
     
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  14. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Country:
    Germany
    They are doing it so players don't miss the final. Like ballack did.
     
  15. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Yeah, I figured that. But almost nobody would miss the final if the records would be cleared one round earlier, but a bunch of players will inevitably miss the semis by delaying the reset until after the QF.
     
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  16. BorisG

    BorisG Member

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Country:
    Germany
    I agree , but every one says we can't beat Italy , we couldn't beat Brazil .. So why can't we beat Italy ??? Of course we can !!!
     
  17. K.W.

    K.W. Member

    Feb 21, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Country:
    Germany
    I think it's a 50/50 Match. Italy might be a bit stronger on the mental side and Germany has the better individual players. There is one thing that might make the difference this time. It seems like nobody is really talking about: Germany are the World Champions! Most of the players won the biggest title already so even they would lose on saturday they are still legends.
     
  18. barcaq8

    barcaq8 Member

    Jul 14, 2014
    Camp Nou, Barcelona
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Germany would win this, but I think the italians wont go down easily.
     
  19. InsigneForBalonD'or

    Jul 16, 2014
    The 6ix
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Country:
    Canada
    I still think Germany are the favourites for this game
     
  20. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Less and less favorites. Pretty soon most teams gonna be on the same level. Iceland... Wales show this. Doesn't matter how big ur population... Just the training
     
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  21. barcaq8

    barcaq8 Member

    Jul 14, 2014
    Camp Nou, Barcelona
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Every year the gap between nations is getting smaller.
     
  22. Takeover73

    Takeover73 New Member

    Jun 23, 2016
    Will we see catenaccio bunker fest ?
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  23. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    Not a great comparison at all. Chiellini didn't play in the two legs and juve played with a 4 man back line and not a 3.
     
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  24. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Country:
    Germany
    The history of Germany losing has little impact on this match. If Italy win another match, it will be because they earned it on the pitch. I don't think this will be a mental issue for Germany as they beat Italy in the youth tourneys. I mean, how much does the outcome of a match played 20 years ago have bearing on this one?

    Besides, what are the odds of keeping the winning streak? With every match Italy wins, the chances of Germany winning the next simply go up. Stats may be in Germany's favor.

    Hoping for a good match and may the best team win.
     
  25. LorneMarvello

    LorneMarvello Member+

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Country:
    England
    Im with Italy tonight even tho we have a crazy panzer boy as our coach!
     

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