German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. IV

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by MatthausSammer, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so his agent got him a pro contract from Dortmund, got him training and friendly games with 1st team where he performed too. Where plenty of reports said that Favre rates him.

    and even before back in oct tons of reports about Eberl knowing him since Raschl was an ex Gladbach player and very keen on poaching him from Dortmund.
     
  2. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This will only continue because we can’t produce elite talents anymore

    1-2 per age group nowadays is generous

    Kuntz said we use to have 7-8 per age group, now 1-2

    But in some I see 0-1
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    22-23 is still youth NT eligible not really end of the world you know.

    just how when someone says strikers don't make it for real until min 23-25 so right on time for post U21 NT.
     
  4. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Plenty of reports lol

    Agent stories , they can pay n make things up. Bild, Welt, FAZ, Sportbuzzer lol

    Reports lol lol

    Favre rated him so let’s see if he will play him. According to “reports” he should lol

    According to Bild n Sportbuzzer , Gladbach rated Raschl

    But u n me haven’t watched much of him. Is he really deserve the hype lol yes check out Bild n Speigel
     
  5. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It’s not end of the world m I m not rushing

    I m saying next 3-4 years, u won’t see mOre than 10 2000-2002 kids playing or starting regularly in BL

    Understandable that it’s not easy, they have to be elite talents to do so. I m saying there aren’t many of such
     
  6. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Not low balling , it’s just that our youth work is at all time low

    Youth players are terrible n not many good talents who have the ceiling of 1BL starter at early age
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    dude if he's trash why did Dortmund give him a pro contract?

    while the Dortmund kid your so high on that's currently playing U19 NT doesn't have any?

    so you think Ricken is a idiot for praising him when signing that pro contract as a talent?
     
  8. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There are reports saying GL Itter is elite talent too but from who? Yes those media like Bild or Sportbuzzer rubbish

    Sportbuzzer said Gotze will be part of Loews team one hour before announcements

    Itter, from the German football industry, all said he’s overrated n overhyped by media

    Not a top talent as they said he is
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Itter still played well when given the chance so if him being a top talent is complete bull than he shouldn't play at all???
    So only top talents should play in a league filled with mediocre players that includes the foreign players and who every team bombed in Europe save for 1.
     
  10. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    As I said, me and u should believe in what we see

    Talk when u see him play for any club regularly

    Giving him contract? Did they? Lol did he let him play or just for the12 Germans quota thing

    Reports say he’s good. Bild Sportbuzzer said so, but pro scouts n coaches told me he’s just so-so, lacking aggressiveness n mobility

    Favre rates him so why he isn’t even on the bench

    What I believe is what i see
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    look at Stuttgart almost all their foreign youth players were complete flops and are doing a very good job at helping getting them relegated. Club like idiots spend something like $70M on flops but yeah they are all amazing. Some of them even got public trashing from Stuttgart head honcho.

    Schalke have spend fortunes on shit players too. Plenty of other clubs too.
     
  12. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    When I watched Itter play, I was never that impressed

    Well that’s subjective maybe u mixed him up with Jordi Alba lol

    Itter will play here n there but isn’t good enough to hold regular playing time. He is not a talent we all thought he is

    I have been told by so many pro coaches n scouts already. I wanted to print screen the convo here but I need his permission first

    There are some other names
     
  13. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Schalke youth is terrible nowadays lol

    Lost 0-6 to Dortmund earlier? Last month
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so a player playing in his last U19 season leading Dortmund to try to win U19 West and also U19 Championship should be in the 1st team to rot on the bench? Is that what he should be doing?

    Dortmund are unlikely to use new players when they are in a very very tight race with Bayern for the title.

    you know both Yeboah/Burkardt did very well in 1BL but both play in U19 because clubs don't want to rush them and they can still get experience there while still being eligible.
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that's not how it works and you know it even teams that get trashed have talents in there. Doesn't make sense to judge the whole. So Kutucu isn't a talent, so Mercan with 1st team currently is not a talent?
     
  16. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yes, but I have included Yeboah n Burkardt already

    I m saying no more than 10 players from 2000-2002 will get consistent playing time next 3 years that’s all

    Some can emerge later, good for them

    I m just saying no more than 10 will emerge in these 3 years from 2000-2002

    Regular means 20+ games a season

    If u know what I mean

    Doesn’t mean I m rushing, I m saying u need good talent or certain level of talent to play in 1BL, at young age. I don’t see too many of such with that potential
     
  17. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Will see in 3 years, don’t be surprised lol

    We are shit, face it

    Teams can buy from Ethiopia n find more decent talents than in Germany lol
     
  18. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don’t know why we are arguing about the talent level

    Everyone is saying we are at all time low

    Not me, but everyone including Kuntz

    U still need certain level of talent to play as pro
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that doesn't even make a lick of sense. You do know that 02 have 2 seasons in U19 after this one in U17 don't you? and you expect them to jump directly in their teens?

    just find it's pointless, 5+ years for these 3 age groups makes more sense. Or what about waiting for them to be done with U21 NT?

    00-01 2023 U21 Euro
    02-03 2025 U21 Euro
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    dude Kuntz was talking about elite talents not good talents. You keep obsessing over his words as if he means there are only 1-2 good players and everyone else is average at best. That's not it.
     
  21. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think 2001 , only Asta will get regular playing time in next 3 years

    2002, maybe more. Lemperle, Aydin can be introduced early.( Adeyemi in Austria too bit not 1BL )
     
  22. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No 1-2 I see is good talent, rest of the age group ... lol he won’t mention it

    Majority I saw from the youth NT will be lucky to play 2BL regularly , or more than 10 games in 1 BL throughout their career
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so OBM is trash now?
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    you know Itter is already at 7 1BL games.:whistling:
     
  25. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Did u read? Stupid retard lol

    I said it’s not easy to emerge early at 18/19 n playing regular there. We had Havertz n Arne Maier that’s all

    So I said u have to be elite talents to emerge n play regularly. (20 games a season) at 18/19

    But 18/19 to make 1BL , I can see around 8-9 in next 3 years

    NOt looking down but being realistic n even generous.

    I won’t be surprise at all if only 3-4 will start playing from 2000-2002 in next 3-4 years. So if u wanna watch german talents In BL, come back in 4 years or the entire forum will laugh at u for complaining n repeating the same thing u retard lol
     

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