German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. IV

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by MatthausSammer, Sep 4, 2017.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    with Bayern II coach Tim Walter now the Kiel coach in 2BL and Evina being a Bayern II player during the season. That could be the right club for him to move to on loan. Some even say that Evina was one of Walter's favorites.
     
  2. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think this depends on whether Bayern does stay out of the market or if they just can’t resist snapping up a superstar like Dembele or Bailey. Cause if they stay put and don’t buy someone to replace Ribery, they’ll enter next season with Muller (who plays centrally often), the injury prone Robben, the dumb dumb Coman, and Gnabry. Even with Hamez able to deputize on the wing, there should be some minutes left over.

    And at Evina’s age I don’t have an issue with him spending a season training with the pros but mostly playing with Bayern II until injuries call him into action. If he gets 5-10 appearances with the senior team, that could be very beneficial and tell us whether he’ll be ready to be a significant contributor in 2019-2020 or if he’ll need a loan to a lower level BuLi or an Eredivisie team.

    The kid’s stil just 18. It’s around 19-20 when I think players need to be moved past the youth teams/reserves for consistent PT...I mean hell, nobody knew who Leroy Sane even was when he was this age, Reus hadn’t even left Aachen for Gladbach yet, and Dahoud was this age when I first saw him in a friendly and called him the next Gundogan...even though Mo was still more than a year from PT in a competitive match.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ahead of the Segunda B, Promotion playoff QF Leg 2 tomorrow.

    Eckert had an interview, where he talks about moving to Celta B injured and needing to get fit. And how it took him time to adapt to Spanish football as it was more technical than Germany. Also says that he had offers from 2BL but decided to go to Spain instead. Finally says that he dreams of playing for the main Celta team and about his desire to extend his stay beyond his 2019 contract.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Celta B advance to the Segunda Division promotion playoffs on Penalty shootouts. Next round they will play Cartagena.

    in other news seems like Dortmund U19 has some players leaving Dortmund to unknown.
    which are Beste, Kyeremateng, and Schwermann
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hertha Berlin U19 leading 2-0 vs Schalke U19 HT.

    Goal 1 scored by Ernesto, Assist by Krebs from a free kick
    Goal 2 scored by Krebs, direct free kick goal

    have to say, Krebs was always the Hertha 99 player who I wondered where he would go next. Never any mention of promotion for him, reason could be because he's a DM like Arne Maier who got promoted and has been playing with the 1st team all season.

    Although his performances all season and the final, I'm sure Krebs will attract interest. It's the same for all the 99s at Schalke who don't end up getting promotion. You don't have to start your career at Schalke or Hertha, that's only 1 possible destination.
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2606 Ger90, May 27, 2018
    Last edited: May 27, 2018
    Hertha Berlin are the U19 Champions. Winning 3-1, other goals were scored by Maier and Kutucu (although not sure if he scored since it had deflections just to go in). Schalke seemed to have most of the possession of the game but couldn't do much. In the end the game was won by long distance kicks. 3 goals were scored from free kicks and Maier's goal was a long distance shot on goal.

    This is also Hertha's 1st U19 championship!





    At 3 goals in 3 games, Kiprit is the top scorer of the U19 Endrunde on top of being the Nord/Nordost top scorer.
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Matchday 25 of the U17. With only one matchday left.

    X3: Hein

    X2: Anapak, Kokturk, Hida, Lockl, Fabisch, Stehle

    X1: Biskup, Fesenmeyer, Onur, Turkmen, Kalac, Touglo, Bakir, Moukoko, Bongard, Arnold, Zorn, Vrcic, Grimm, Hummel (seems to have been injured all season , played his 1st U17 game last week and this week scored, both games off the bench), Ganaus, Makanda, Geschwill, Hollerbach, Gans, Cevis, Kudala, Emini, Haupts, Fesser, Scheurenbrand, Tost, Repple, Weber, Samardzic, Alidou, Krauss, Bias, Borkowski, Ender, Jakel, Koppitz, Neugebauer

    with one game left here seems to be the candidates for the Championship SF
    -West, 2 spots: Dortmund are in, while Schalke and Bayer contest the last spot
    -Sud/Sudwest,1 spot: Between in order, Bayern, Stuttgart and Hoff. Advantage Bayern on GD
    -Nord/Nordost, 1 spots: in order between RB and Hertha. Advantage RB.
     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  9. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Marco Richter extends with Augsburg until 2023.


    Sven Muller leaves Koln and joins Karlsruher.
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    weird turn of events, Kiprit has changed his mind and will not sign the pro contract until 2021 with Hertha......
    http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/...it-lehnt-herthas-vertrag-ab.html#omsmtwkicker

    disappointing, he could have gotten a chance eventually at Hertha's 1st team, maybe after a year on loan. There is interest in Germany and abroad. Leaving Germany with no top flight experience is usually a mistake.
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Benjamin Henrichs who has attracted the interest of Chelsea, Man U, Man City and other EPL clubs, now has according to some Italian reports attracted the interest of Inter Milan in Serie A. It's possible he is headed out, with the transfer of Weiser at Bayer.

    injured almost all season and only playing 4 games out of a possible 26, 00-Daniels Ontuzans extends until 2021.


    Idrissa Toure seems headed either on loan to 2BL or in 1st division abroad.
    https://www.ligainsider.de/idrissa-toure_7479/ausleihe-ist-fuer-werder-eine-option-247420/

    yet another person (Baumann) who says that RL/4th division is not a good level for 1BL but that 3rd Liga is more "acceptable".
     
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    some Gladbach U19 movements,
    Hanraths, Abu-Alfa, Langhoff, Kempkens and Steinkotter all moving to Glabach II.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    just realized now that Alexander Nubel played on the last matchday as a 2nd half sub to Fahrmann, playing 45 minutes and keeping the clean sheet vs Frankfurt. As of now he's played 2 games in 1BL and both were clean sheets. So him and Florian Muller are the youth keepers who played this season in 1BL not counting all the guys who made the bench.

    we also have Schubert who's played a decent amount of games in 2BL and I believe there might have been a few other young keepers but who played only like a few games tops. As well as some youth keepers getting playing time in 3rd Liga and of course the young keepers in RL.
     
  15. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Alexander Rossipal joins Sandhausen on a 3 year deal.
     
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  18. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/hertha-bsc/hertha-talente-55830406.bild.html

    Bild's article on Hertha U19's championship talents, and their chances of making the senior squad this upcoming season:

    Muhammed Kiprit (18): The striker with 23 goals was top scorer in the Bundesliga North / Northeast squad (U19). In the championships he scored three goals for Hertha,, and against Dortmund in the final. Kiprit would be scheduled for the pros in the upcoming season. But he probably rejects a contract offer. The signs are goodbye.

    Bundesliga chance: 10 percent.

    Arne Maier (19): He has made the breakthrough in professional football long ago. Under Dardai Maier has won a regular place in the last season.

    Bundesliga chance: 100 percent.

    Florian Krebs (19): The defensive midfielder shot a dream goal in the final free-kick. Dardai is very interested in Krebsr. Should his development continue this way, he could perhaps become a successor to Per Skjelbred (30) or Fabian Lustenberger (30). But he still needs time.

    Bundesliga chance: 40 percent.

    Palko Dardai (19): The coach's son has already been used in the Europa League and the Bundesliga. After the departure of Mitchell Weiser (23) there is one competitor in the right midfield. More professional games are coming up.

    Bundesliga chance 70 percent.

    Nikos Zografakis (18): The winger has already trained several times with professionals. Shot in the championship semi-final against Dortmund a double. Professional assistant coach Rainer Widmayer (51): "Niko has that certain something."

    Bundesliga chance 30 percent.

    Dennis Jastrzembski (18): The talent recently signed a professional contract. He is one of the fastest players of all Hertha teams.

    Bundesliga chance 45 percent.

    Julius Kade (18): The offensive player was already allowed to play in the Bundesliga and Europa League. Injuries and a low form Kade threw back but last.

    Bundesliga chance 60 percent.

    Florian Baak (19): The center-half has already celebrated a brief stint in the Bundesliga. However, Rekik, Stark, Lustenberger and Torunarigha will not be able to get by in the medium term.

    Bundesliga chance 30 percent.

    Dennis Smarsch (19): In the pros, he is already third goalkeeper. Physically, Smarsch has gained and is considered a great talent.

    Bundesliga chance 60 percent.
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kiprit seems to be more like 0 percent chance at Hertha since he rejected the pro contract and kicker had him as leaving. It's nice to see Krebs could make it at Hertha as Dardai is a fan.

    I wonder if guys like Krebs, Kade, and Zografakis goes on loan? Not saying all of them just the ones who could get loans.

    Smarsch was confirmed awhile ago to be going nowhere so he's likely in Hertha II. While Maier and Dardai are likely in the 1st team next season. I believe when Jastrzembski signed his pro contract they said he would join the main team in the Summer.

    Baak could end up in Hertha II and be called up when injuries happen. Otherwise I doubt he displaced those 4 CBs.
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    97 striker Joel Grodowski who played in English-League One (3rd division) Bradford City left the club. Played 1 game this season, the club wanted to extend his contract and there were weeks of negotiations but he turned it down and wants to come home and play in Germany. Seems like part of it was that he was homesick. Doesn't help that he was injured for more than half the season.
    https://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/Staedte/Selm/Joel-Grodowski-verlaesst-Bradford-City-1284730.html
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    uh, Kilian Ludewig is being linked with a loan to RB Salzburg???


    RB live also have him as linked to Salzburg. Not only that they say that majority of the U19 will be let go.

    also numerous places also say that Abouchabaka being loaned out is a possibility. RB really showing that no one with 0 pro experience will get chances in the 1st team.

    at this rate why doesn't RB Leipzig just loan out both Abouchabaka and Ludewig for 1 season in Austria. RB Salzburg are coached by a German who who's an ex youth coach and has developed young players and are a "sister" club.

    If one pays attention, RB Leipzig has actually profited a ton from Salzburg, who seem almost like the farm team who develops players and then RB Leipzig just buys them. Already they are linked with buying even more Salzburg players this summer.

    Just look at this RB Leipzig players that were taken from Salzburg. Some even lasted only 1 season at Salzburg before RB bought them.
    Bernardo, Upamecano, Sabitzer, Keita, Ilsanker, Laimer, and Gulacsi

    If your taking advantage of Salzburg why not do a loan deal to give back something to Salzburg?

    On top of Dauter to Hannover, seems like Jordan Born seems headed to Ingolstadt and Joshua Wehking to Bochum.

    but seriously RB need to figure what to do with their youth products. No reserve team and you don't want to play anyone without experience.

    If not Austria, maybe loan out Abouchabaka to FCN or another 1BL team that could play him, 2BL as other options. Let's not forget that FCN was said to have like $3M budget only.
     
  22. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Actually loan Ludewig and Abouchabaka to Salzburg for 2 seasons is a good idea.

    They are just 18, after 2 seasons they will be 20 and more or less proven at pro level
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    thing is they can't loan Abouchabaka for 2 seasons, he has a 2 year contract at Leipzig. Unless he extends that, he isn't being loaned out for more than 1 season.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    Glad to see Regasel finding a club after Frankfurt dumped him during the season....
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so while Duisburg U19's 2nd keeper Brendieck got promoted to the main team. Haesler is moving to Bremen II. Not sure I get why he would move there? When a clubs says that Plogmann is the 3rd keeper at Bremen and likely Bremen II's 1st keeper why would you move there?

    some RB U19 updates.
    Dauter-linked to Hannover
    Born-linked to Ingolstadt
    Wehking-linked to Bochum
    Schelenz-moving to unknown
    Stahl-moving to unknown
    Schimmel-moving to unknown
    Aslan (their top scorer)-moving to unknown

    Schmidt seems headed to Koln II

    In terms of 99s, Yilmaz, Senkbeil, and Minz are the only ones left without an update. At this rate they are also likely headed to unknown.

    but if one is honest, Stierlin, Abouchabaka, Ludewig, and Majetschak all 00s were always the players that RB seemed to prefer the most and 00-Kuhn before he left for Ajax was the 5th. 2 of those got pro contracts and these are also the players who trained with the pros at different times throughout the season. Now there is even rumors about Ludewig and Abouchabaka possibly going on loan. Majetschak is a player that is confirmed to have a 2 year extension clause in his contract.
     

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