Review: German National Team News & Discussion Thread - WC 2014 & Beyond

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Kirsten19, Jul 13, 2014.

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  1. Sifrit

    Sifrit Member

    Mar 15, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2076 Sifrit, Mar 31, 2016
    You didn't. I just anticipated that this would be the next argument against testing another LB.

    I don't buy this argument. Hector needs to play 90 minutes in every friendly, three months before the Euros? Then why is Löw rotating at every other position? Including RB, where he hasn't even found the starting player yet. Boateng wasn't there anyway, btw.

    With Löw the actual preparation has always been in the training camp just before the tournament. Until then his defenses have always been unstable and mostly terrible. Even in the qualifying games.

    The point remains: who plays LB if Hector gets injured?
     
  2. P to the Wee

    P to the Wee Red Card

    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2077 P to the Wee, Mar 31, 2016
    RB he hasn't even found someone reliable yet. If he did, he wouldn't rotate. Every other position is more or less set in stone and they guys have their comfort level.
     
  3. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2078 Raumdeuter, Mar 31, 2016
    In tournaments Low is very conservative and He would play at least 1 CB as a full back. I cant remember any tournament Low has actually played 2 natural full backs who would overlap

    I expect Boateng Hummels plus Mustafi/Rudiger and one real full back maybe Hector/Durm/Schmelzer/Rudy/ Weiser

    depending on the side he plays the 3rd CB
     
  4. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2079 nekkibasara, Mar 31, 2016
    Yup.

    Loew's fullbacks in major tournament key matches (finals, semifinals etc.):

    2006 Lahm and Friedrich
    2008 Lahm and Friedrich
    2010 Lahm and Boateng
    2012 Lahm and Badstuber
    2014 Lahm and Hoewedes
    2016?
     
  5. Raumdeuter

    Raumdeuter Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2080 Raumdeuter, Mar 31, 2016
    2012 I think it was Boateng RB, Hummels Badstuber CB's Lahm LB

    But you get the gist
     
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  6. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2081 nekkibasara, Mar 31, 2016
    Yeah. Your'e right. It's going to be weird watching Germany in a major tournament and not seeing Lahm on the team sheet.
     
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  7. herthabsc

    herthabsc Member

    Jun 20, 2007
    #2082 herthabsc, Mar 31, 2016
    I know I'm obviously biased, but given the lack of available options I don't understand why neither Plattenhardt nor Weiser has even gotten a friendly chance this year. Especially Plattenhardt - Weiser's still young so there's reason to give him more time, but Plattenhardt is exactly the kind of offensively integrated LB that would be perfect for the NT.
     
  8. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    #2083 Kirsten19, Apr 1, 2016
    3-5-2 maybe an option

    I think when Gundogan is back from injury, They'll move Gundogan to the starting lineup. We played Oezil at CM/DM last match , alongside Kroos. It was OK against a weak Italian side but against better opponent maybe Gundogan n Kroos will be better.

    The good thing about 3-5-2 is we have an extra centre back n he can give more stability in defense. One of the 3 CBs can even go further up n help out at the defensive midfield position, while we still have other 2 CBs at the back

    And you can also see Rudiger n Hummels go help out the two wing backs quite often, so we were like playing a wing back plus a fullback while we still have two other CBs in the middle. This pretty much covers up our fullback issue. Things will only be better when Boateng is back.

    3-men backline is actually a solution of many of our problems



    --------------------Neuer
    -------Boateng---Mustafi-Hummels
    -Bellarabi-------------------------Hector
    --------------Gundogan--Kroos
    ----------------------Oezil----
    ---------------Mueller---Reus/Gomez
     
  9. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    #2084 nurvin, Apr 1, 2016
    --------------------Neuer-------------------------
    Durm-----Ginter---Hummels---Schmelzer
    -------Schweinsteiger---Kroos----------------
    Müller-------------Götze----------------Reus
    --------------------Schürrle--------------------

    Subs:
    Fährmann, ter Stegen
    Bender, Höwedes, Stark, Plattenhardt
    Weigl, Kramer
    Herrmann, Özil, Draxler
    Kruse
     
  10. P to the Wee

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2085 P to the Wee, Apr 1, 2016
    Gündogan not a sub? Schürrle and Götze over Özil? No Boateng?

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. nurvin

    nurvin Member

    Feb 11, 2011
    #2086 nurvin, Apr 1, 2016
    Ahahah!
    I try to make a young team as players are ageing, it's since 2010 that there are the same players;I'd like to rejuvenate the team.
    Schürrle as CF as there is nobody else I really like in that position and I don't consider Götze a CF and Gomez is too static.
    Götze over Özil as he is younger than him and talented, Özil as a sub.
    Gündogan too often injured.
    Boateng has never been an important player imo; at the beginning of his career he was quite bad I reember.
     
  12. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2087 MatthausSammer, Apr 1, 2016
    This gets less palatable as it goes on:
    1. I don't see a reason to change the guard beyond kicking Podolski and Schweinsteiger to the curb. All of our other players are still solidly in their primes and could easily go to 2018 if we wanted.
    2. Schürrle has most of the same issues as Götze as a CF, why is one considered a CF and the other isn't? Götze's a more talented player than Schürrle anyways.
    3. Özil gets kicked by Götze? Let's see, one is on track to easily break the EPL assist record for a season, the other is mostly bench warming. But you're right, Götze is talented, which is why you put him as CF instead of Schürrle and Özil at 10.
    4. Gündoğan is probably the most talented CM in the German player pool. Leaving him out when he's healthy is a terrible decision.
    5. *spits out drink* Boateng has been a very important and world class CB for Germany and Bayern unless you've been living under a rock for the past 4-5 years. He was inconsistent in the beginning, sure, but now leaving him out is a massive mistake that causes me to wonder if you even watch Germany and Bayern on any sort of consistent basis. I hate to put it like that, but that's the only way I can put it.
     
  13. P to the Wee

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2088 P to the Wee, Apr 1, 2016
    Younger doesn't make you better. You are playing a tournament in 2016, this is not a roster you pick in 2016 to play in 2020. I don't care about age I care about quality in this instance.
     
  14. P to the Wee

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2089 P to the Wee, Apr 1, 2016
    Boateng was only the best player in the WC final, but yeah what a scrub!!!!
     
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  15. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2090 MatthausSammer, Apr 1, 2016
    Second-best; Schweinsteiger IMO was the best. But still, point made.
     
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  16. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2091 Alex C, Apr 1, 2016
    Well it is April fools...

    I would have the same team, but with Poldi as undroppable captain up front.

    Ps leaving out Boateng, Gündogan and Özil, 3 of the best players in their position in the world? Hmmm.
     
  17. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2092 Lahmfan, Apr 1, 2016
    lmfao at boa was never an important player... comedy
     
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  18. Lahmfan

    Lahmfan Member+

    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2093 Lahmfan, Apr 1, 2016
    no that was messi
     
  19. P to the Wee

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2094 P to the Wee, Apr 1, 2016
    Must be a French person hoping Löw listens to this board.
     
  20. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2095 Dage, Apr 1, 2016
    Schweini actually had a very mediocre game. He was very physical until the end but didn't do much football wise. Boateng, Neuer and Götze were the decisive players imo

    The nurvin guy just posted his all Aryan Germanic blooded squad. Just your usual troll.
     
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  21. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    #2096 Kirsten19, Apr 1, 2016
    ------------------Neuer
    ------Boateng--Mustafi---Hummels
    --Durm----------------------------Hector
    ------------Gundogan--Kroos
    --------------------Oezil
    -------------Mueller----Draxler


    Sub:

    GK) Trapp, Timo Horn

    DF) Tah, Schmelzer, Rudiger

    MF) Emre Can, Bellarabi, Khedira, Goetze, Reus

    FW) Mario Gomez, Timo Werner
     
  22. kimof

    kimof Member

    Aug 1, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2097 kimof, May 2, 2016
  23. Rosebud

    Rosebud Member+

    Aug 5, 2012
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2098 Rosebud, May 2, 2016
  24. White/Blue_since1860

    White/Blue_since1860 Red Card

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2099 White/Blue_since1860, May 2, 2016
     
  25. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2100 Alex C, May 2, 2016
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