Review: German National Team News & Discussion Thread - WC 2014 & Beyond

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Kirsten19, Jul 13, 2014.

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  1. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #76 MatthausSammer, Jul 15, 2014
    I agree. Just hope we pick a pair of fullbacks and stick with them for a while. Durm and Jung would be my two picks as well. Tournament's not for another two years, but we need to start bleeding them in now. Lahm's not going to last forever. He can still start in qualifying, but for friendlies I want rookies.
     
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  2. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    #77 Kirsten19, Jul 15, 2014
    Time to bring in Lasogga to be Klose's successor. With Mario Gomez and Lasogga as the replacement

    This tournament showed that a classic CF is still useful in our system. That's why Klose got the start at the age of 36
     
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  3. Lahmfan

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    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #78 Lahmfan, Jul 15, 2014
    i need him to left one more cup then i can die happily.
     
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  4. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
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    Borussia Dortmund
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    Germany
    #79 MatthausSammer, Jul 15, 2014
    Lasogga and Müller and Gomez can fight it out IMO. Best option wins.
     
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  5. Bazi

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    Jan 15, 2009
    Wuerzburg (Germany)
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #80 Bazi, Jul 15, 2014
    Lasogga is a poor-man's Mario Gomez and even his incredible scoring couldn't make up for his technical weaknesses. How should the inferior finisher in Lasogga, who has similar weaknesses on the ball, be the solution to the NT's problems on the CF position?

    I've got Thomas Müller up-front for the EC 2016.
     
  6. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
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    Borussia Dortmund
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    Germany
    #81 MatthausSammer, Jul 15, 2014
    More hold-up play, which I've never seen Gomez demonstrate.
     
  7. Bazi

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    Jan 15, 2009
    Wuerzburg (Germany)
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #82 Bazi, Jul 15, 2014
    Let Lasogga play on the highest level against defending opponents, like Gomez had to at Bayern, and we can talk again about Lasogga's superior hold-up play, because I remember Mario Gomez was very much capable of it during his time at Stuttgart.

    How many long balls to hold up have you seen from the NT during this WC anyway? That's not Löw's tactical approach at all, which focuses on low and vertical passing. Lasogga would be a liability just like Gomez.
     
  8. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
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    Borussia Dortmund
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    Germany
    #83 MatthausSammer, Jul 15, 2014
    Fair enough.

    It still provides another option. To be honest, I haven't seen a lot of Lasogga, so I'm not really familiar with the intricacies of his game. But I do think its something worth exploring.
     
  9. benztown

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    Jun 24, 2005
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #84 benztown, Jul 15, 2014
    Timo Werner then ;)
     
  10. shap_half

    shap_half Member+

    Oct 17, 2010
    New York
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #85 shap_half, Jul 15, 2014
    Do you reckon he's going to get more playing time this season?
     
  11. benztown

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    Jun 24, 2005
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    #86 benztown, Jul 15, 2014
    I'm pretty sure. Stuttgart refused to let him go to the U19 EURO, which can only mean that they plan to play with him. It kinda sucks for Werner and I would want him to have that experience. On the other hand, it means that he's needed in the Bundesliga, which should be some sort of consolidation.
     
  12. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    #87 Kirsten19, Jul 16, 2014
    Completely wrong evaluation

    Mario Gomez has been very injury prone in last few seasons, being 29 already i dont think he is that reliable of an option and on the down-side of his career.

    LAsogga is not an inferior finisher. He is in fact more allrounded and better than Mario Gomez in building up and creating; Lasoogga has a much better long shot too, as well as the mobility that allows Lasogga to play on the flanks throughout the game

    I think thats something Mario Gomez doesnt provide.

    Lasogga's scoring rate at 114min per goal (13 goals in 1482 min) is also much better than Lewandowski (140 min per goal, 20 goals in 2799min) and Adrian Ramos' for example. I dont think his finishing is ever an issue

    Only 3-4 top teams in 1.BL, and clubs like Bayern and Dortmund do not use local striker talents, especially the younger ones. Mario Gomez, Klose also struggled in their Bayern days. clubs like Bayern and Dortmund have the buying power and more willign to invest on foreign strikers who are more proven and valuable in market. Lasogga moving to one of these clubs will only hurt his career more than helping.

    As German fans, i think we just have to accept that our strikers are all from mid-lower tabled clubs. "one-striker formation" and the increasing buying power of top teams really hurt young German strikers chance. Being proven and expereinced is becoming more and more important nowadays
     
  13. Lahmfan

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    Jun 3, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #88 Lahmfan, Jul 16, 2014
    i am young enough to play as a striker ...

    anyone have loew phone number?
     
  14. Kirsten19

    Kirsten19 Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Newport Beach, CA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    #89 Kirsten19, Jul 16, 2014
    http://www.ligainsider.de/timo-werner_2570/veh-sieht-ihn-im-sturmzentrum-86820/

    http://www.ligainsider.de/timo-werner_2570/werner-ist-unverkaeuflich-86919/

    Looks like Coach Veh really values Werner and has a plan with him.

    Ibisevic is aging, Ginczek is always injured(still injured)...Abdellaoue is regressing badly and is as good as gone. I think Timo Werner has a very good chance to start regularly if coach is playing a two-striker formation
     
  15. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #90 BorisG, Jul 16, 2014
    We have no need to bring in anyone at this stage to win the EC
    Front row
    Reus, Muller, Schurrle, Oezil Goetze. Draxler
    Midfield row: Khedira, Schweinie, Kroos, Gundogan and Benders (those young Schalke boys as well)
    Back row: Lahm, Boateng, Badstuber, Hummels, Merte, Howedes, Durm, Schmelzer etc.
    Goal: Neuer and there are enough other options.

    Why bring in a new team if the old team is young and talented enough mixed with all the experience you need.
    Anyway its 2 years down the line...
     
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  16. Minttunator

    Minttunator Member

    Oct 4, 2010
    Estonia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #91 Minttunator, Jul 16, 2014
    Man, I remember when Lahm, Schweini and Podolski were the young guns, the new kids on the block - it doesn't seem like that long ago at all! And now we already have to think about replacing them - I have to admit thinking of Lahm and Basti no longer playing for the NT makes me rather melancholy.

    I absolutely agree with you, though. We're pretty stacked in midfield but it's not looking that good closer to goal - if only we could clone Neuer and have him play FB/CB as well as GK! :D
     
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  17. Bazi

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    Jan 15, 2009
    Wuerzburg (Germany)
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #92 Bazi, Jul 16, 2014
    Durm and Jung are not the final solutions though. What we desperately need is talent in the category of Ricardo Rodriguez and David Alaba and not their subpar German counterparts.
     
  18. SLC25

    SLC25 Member

    Jun 19, 2004
    Jordan
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #93 SLC25, Jul 16, 2014
    Still no love for Piggy?
     
  19. P to the Wee

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #94 P to the Wee, Jul 16, 2014
    Hey, if he's healthy and still on it in 2 years, then of course. Just a big IF.
     
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  20. Dage

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    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #95 Dage, Jul 16, 2014
    So few love for Kramer in here :/ think of the guy.. he has most covered ground in the Bundesliga and is very comfortable holding possession and passing the ball. He wasn't playing (almost) at all until the final and he just knew of his participation until 10 minutes before kick-off. Then played a very good match until the cruel injury. He's young and inexpirienced but he must has shown some good impacts during the world cup trainings.

    If he has another good season with Gladbach and goes on to succeed e.g. Rolfes at Leverkusen after it, I can see him playing a role in future NTs. He's imo also suited for a really good fullback.
     
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  21. Dage

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    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #96 Dage, Jul 16, 2014
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  22. goindownsouth

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    Jun 19, 2006
    Central, NJ
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #97 goindownsouth, Jul 16, 2014
    You can beat the drum for Lasogga all you like, but for my money, Volland would be a perfect fit. He can play wide or centrally even though he is not a true #9. In Loew's scheme, he doesn't have to be. Volland has already proven himself in the 2.BL and with Hoffenheim. To me, he is the likely starter or at a minimum significant contributor up top at EM 2016.
     
  23. P to the Wee

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #98 P to the Wee, Jul 16, 2014
    2016:

    Müller
    Reus Kroos Götze
    Schweinsteiger Khedira?/Gündogan?
    Durm Hummels Boateng Lahm
    Neuer
     
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  24. goindownsouth

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    Jun 19, 2006
    Central, NJ
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #99 goindownsouth, Jul 16, 2014
    Damn strong side there. Add in your top 3 subs and this looks solid.
     
  25. P to the Wee

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    Nov 22, 2011
    Susan is a Little Lamb
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #100 P to the Wee, Jul 16, 2014
    Schürrle super sup+Özil+Ginter main CB backup. If Schweini isn't healthy there's always Kramer, maybe Kroos dropping deeper, maybe Goretzka, the Benders, etc.. 2016 we should be more than fine, in 2018 it's too early to plan. So much potential players we haven't even heard about could appear by then.
     
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