German National Team News & Discussion Thread - Post WC 2010

Look, I don't judge players on one or two games but over an extended period of time.

 

http://www.11freunde.de/international/138041/die_jugend_von_morgen


Intresting article. Its about the striker options for the NT after Mario Gomez and the aging Klose, six are listed:

Nils Petersen
Julian Schieber
Peniel Mlapa
Sandro Wagner
Pierre Lasogga
Richard Sukuta-Pasu

I personally only see Schieber and Petersen as real options out of the list. Wagner has the lowest ceiling and i dont think he'll ever developed into a NT calibre striker;
Mlapa is fast, strong, explosive and pretty skillful, but he can't score;
Lasogga is an exact opposite of Mlapa, very slow and clumsy but a very clinical predator in front of goal. He is not ready technically though;

The article left out Kevin Volland, who has been playing exceptionally well for 1860 Munich in his debut professional season as an 18 year old;
Not sure about Lennart Thy's development but he was rated as high as Mario Goetze back in his U17 days;
Shawn Parker, Marvin Ducksch, Samed Yesil and Timo Werner are strikers for the future imo

 

To be frank, I don't see anyone besides Gomez, Muller, Klose and Schurrle to be competing for the striker position until 2014. Gomez looks like a foot in after scoring in the last couple of outings with the NT.

 

Nils Petersen looks like a great prospect out there though.

A clinical finisher, can shoot equally well with both feet, big, has good technique and great positioning for goals.

Those are the attributes that he may still impress us even in the 1BL

 

2014 is a long way away, it'd be stupid to think so don't you think? Just an injury or two alone to those four could alter the landscape.

 

Not to mention, Loew will not play Schurrle at CF as Tuchel did

I dont think Mueller n Schurrle are options up top for the NT

 

Maybe I shouldn't say this, but I kinda wish this string of clasicos between Real and Barca happened close to a WC or Euro... like last year or something, lol. I doubt the mood it's going to be very good in the Spanish NT for a while...

 

haha, true

 

Last year or next would have been perfect

 

With khedira taking out xavi and iniesta in the last clasico....

 

Well if the rumors in the spanish papers are to be believed the classicos have disrupted the chemistry amongst the Barca/Madrid contingent in the national team..... make of that what you may.

 

I guess it wouldn't make much of a difference. Even if the few Madrid players in the Spanish NT were to get isolated from the rest of the starting eleven or even kicked out for strangling Barcelona players, there would not be much of a dip in quality. Fabregas comes in for Xabi Alonso, Reina or De Gea replaces Casillas and, well, I don't think anyone ever liked Sergio Ramos to begin with and yet he's still a part of the team.

 

Lol Reina....that guy is such a clown, watch any video of that team post match and he leads the parades.......

 

They have fantastic depth but those are still core players that, for obvious reasons, won't just get kicked out. I think it will be interesting to see if this affects performance in any way, if these things are at all to be believed.

 

If he makes it to the 1BL first.

 

You're right, but this is my just own conviction. Of course things could change dramatically.

 

Who knows, i think it is in Schurrles interest to work on becoming a CF, it is were he is most likely to succeed.

 

LOL. But the idea is not that they're kicked out, but that the mood or environment in the locker room isn't good. It appears to have had it's effect on some Dutch teams.

Casillas is probably the most important there. So it's only three Madrid players?.

 

They will forget about it the first night they get back into camp with some sangrias listening to Pepe Reina going on about the one time he saw stevie g out in liverpool.........The new spanish team is different and they have new experiences to fall back on


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gVcHfrZFiw"]YouTube - Schweinsteiger sufrió la conga de España[/ame]

 

From an Everton ITK...

Klose's agent has met Everton officials twice in the past week.

 

If that's true, it would be a good move for him. Everton has no real striker of note unless you consider Saha, and so Miro will be a guaranteed starter there if he can put one in every 2 or 3 games.

 

At this point in time, from a German NT perspective, I'm not sure if being a guaranteed starter is a good thing. He could 'save' his best for the WC because he was under utilized ( I use that word liberally) at Bayern. Do you see him playing out a full season and coming into EC 12 full of vigour?

 

Well, he did manage to come on for the NT vigorously enough in 2006, though of course, that was 2006. Still, he's a professional footballer and fitness shouldn't really be that much of an issue, especially since Everton won't have the distractions of European football. It'll just be straight up league and occasional cup games. I'm pretty sure he can handle it.

 

Is Robert Huth still under Loew's radar? Saw the Arsenal-Stoke City match, I think he had a pretty good game in general.

Huth, Hummels, Howedes, Mertesacker and Arne Friedrich. I actually think Mertesacker is the worst among the 5.