Geoff Cameron at Queens Park Rangers

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Friedel'sAccent, Aug 9, 2012.

  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    If you enjoy fandom without cardiac consequences, become a Stoke fan.
     
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  2. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Our boi has done 165 matches ( 148 PL ) in 5 years at Stoke.
     
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  3. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    If he can stay healthy he's reached his prime for the 2018 wc.
     
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  4. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
  6. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Hope he's been banking the lbs. Took a pretty big pay cut the last 2 years...
     
  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    did he really?
     
  8. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    My man crish continues..
     
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  9. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Hope he makes up for his 2014 WC performances in 2018
     
  10. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I meant xchange - if he stays in Britain no prob, but lb has dropped pretty badly past 24+ months.

    I think it was as high as .6 to the dollar, has been pushing .8 lately... cuts both your income and more importantly your savings if you weren't good about converting to $$ regularly.

    Really, anyone making non-USD money recently has seen their salary drop if they are bringing it back to states.

    Makes me wonder if US players in Canada tend to get US$ contracts. Those guys would have been hit hard too over past 3 years.
     
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  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Oh okay gotcha. For a sec I was like "Damn geoff, what kinda contract did you sign?"
     
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  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yes, I think he may come to MLS then.
     
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  13. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    hopefully he got a nice wage increase. I figure he's probably among the low earners at the club.
     
  14. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    What? The Euro was artificially low because of the French elections. Smart money was buying Euros with Dollars all day long. Euro is up ~10% since Macron victory. Expect it to go up. If given the choice, I would always get K's in Euros. No one ever went poor betting the Germans hate inflation.
     
  15. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (Somehow listed as Ireland)
    STOKE CITY PLAYER SALARIES PER WEEK 2016-17 (FULL SQUAD CONTRACTS)


    Players Name Position Country Weekly Wage
    Lee Grant
    Goalkeeper England £5,000
    Glen Johnson Defender England £18,000
    Ryan Shawcross Defender England £32,000
    Bruno Martins Indi Defender Netherlands £22,000
    Eric Pieters Defender Netherlands £22,000
    Geoff Cameron Midfielder Ireland £14,000
    Xherdan Shaqiri
    Midfielder Switzerland £36,000
    Marko Arnautovic Midfielder Austria £36,000
    Joe Allen Midfielder Wales £29,000
    Peter Crouch Forward England £36,000
    Mame Diouf Forward Cameroon £18,000
    Jon Walters Forward Ireland £25,000
    Charlie Adam Midfielder Scotland £20,000
    Wilfried Bony Forward Ivory Coast £36,000
    Ibrahim Afellay Forward Netherlands £25,000
    As you can see, the wages are fairly average for a Premier League team with a couple of big earners. They will look to bring in better players this summer, perhaps on higher wages, as they look to continually sustain their PL status.
     
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  16. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For what he brings to that team, he's vastly underpaid.
     
  17. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    While plenty of people get rich working for the World Bank, the IMF and Goldman Sachs.
     
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  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Stoke is in England. That funny L in front of the 14 above stands for Pounds Sterling.

    I am guessing Geoff will return and begin some second career in the US.

    In July, 2012 when Geoff signed with Stoke the 1 LB was worth 1.56 USD, meaning if he changed his money on Day 1 and sent it home he was making $21,840.00

    On June 17, 2014, while Cameron was at Stoke the exchange for lbs to $$ was 1.7 $ to the LB.

    So if Geoff were making pounds and exchanging it to USD to send home, then he was making ~ $23,800.00 US D

    Yesterday, it was 1.28 USD to the LB. So if he was changing his salary yesterday he was sending 17920 home, a "salary cut" of nearly $6000 USD. That's fairly substantial.

    If he saved and invested all his money in England and was contemplating bringing it home with him (to say, buy a house or start a business?) the value of his savings would have dropped the same since the high.

    Hopefully, he had been sending money home at a regular pace. Or plans to be buried next to the Trent.
     
  19. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    That could be a typo and they could be referring to Glenn Whelan, who iirc is an Irish international. I have seen varying numbers on how much he gets paid form £35k a week to the lowest I have seen listed above. No idea what I one is correcr.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    He's been passing as Irish all this time. Shh.
     
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  21. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Stoke just got Darren Fletcher on a free. Will mean another CM for Geoff to compete with.
     
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  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    when are Stoke gonna realize buying "has beens" from big clubs won't improve them the slightest
     
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  23. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic

    Almost certainly. Single entity and all that.

    Plus, the CA-to-US $ exchange rate has been, if not exactly volatile, then at least pretty variable over the years. I find it hard to imagine that players wouldn't want protections in their contracts.

    In any case, while the journeymen have little leverage, does anyone seriously imagine that Jozy, Bradley, Giovinco, Montero, etc. have their contracts in any other currency than USD?
     
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  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Which would have worked out for most players, since TO was founded in 2006, when the $$ was already pushing par. I do, however, know a few folks who got USD contracts in the early 2000's when the CA$ was .65 and watched as rose to almost par in 5 years. It hurt their living expenses a bit. But the USD is the safer hedge, for the most part.

    I don't know enough about MLS biz model. Is there a profit-sharing arangement at all? If that's in USD, it helps clubs like TO hedge any USD salary commitments.
     
  25. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what ive heard from Duanne Rollins and Kevin Laramee, contracts are paid out from NY office so USD. There is a long talk those two have had about Canadians as domestics that tangentally refer to this topic and they mentioned the above.
     
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