General Transfer Thread II [R]

"What Everton had out there?" What are you talking about?

What Everton had out there for what?

I don't think Barrios would worry about any of that.

He seems to type who would go where he is told to go and simply produce.

 

Dude, that is nothing but a ton of speculation. These same people claimed Everton were all over 1860's young striker Peniel Mlapa, who wound up going to Hoffenheim for a grand total of 1.3M Euros. Not "13", "1.3".

Do you really think if Everton was truly interested, he would have moved for a total as low as 1.3M Euros??

Not every football rumor you read is true.

Especially this time of year.

NO ONE has been in for Barrios already. NO ONE!

Zorc confirmed that already. And that isn't speculation.

Zorc said it.

 

I believe BVB won't think of selling for less than 20M. We'll need Barrios for this Europa League campaign.

 

Irritated? Man please.

I pointed out that what you posted was bullshit and it is.

I wasn't irritated. When I'm irritated, you'll know.

If you can post bullshit, you can be called on it.

I'd expect you to do the same for me.

 

Look man. I just know that 95% of footy rumors at this time of the year are false. Most are just plain speculation.

I used to be in the business.

Discussing a written article is fine by me whether it is true or not.

But not when it is adressed as if it is truth or fact when it clearly is not.

Why did you do that? Because "The Guardian" says so?


We can keep going with this, but as far as I can see, one simple thing happened.

I called bullshit and you didn't like it.

It doesn't mean I'm somehow "irritated" or upset with you.

I just called bullshit. I even posted direct comments from the Borussia Dortmund Director of Sport (General Manager) to back up my claim.

It seems you're the "irritated" one here.

 

According to this transfermarkt article, Uwe Hünemeier's move to Cottbus is done.

The article says the 24-year old Hünemeier signed a three-year contract with Cottbus on Wednesday night.

As a central defender, he scored six goals in 33 appearances for BVB II this past 3. Liga season.

He made five appearances for the Bundesliga team in his career.

His Bundesliga debut was on 17 December 2005 in a 2-1 BVB loss to Bayern.


For me, this is a sad end of a systematic purge of all the kids who did well for us under Bert van Marwijk except for Sahin.

We once had so much potential with kids like Amedick, Odonkor, Hünemeier, Brzenska, Sahin and the youngest of them, Marc-Andre Kruska.

Of course, Odonkor got to be full of himself after the 2006 World Cup and basically forced his way out of Dortmund.

Even Sahin spent a loan season away under van Marwijk at Feyenoord.

However, Brzenska stopped improving after van Marwijk left town. Amedick became one of Thomas Doll's favorite scapegoats and Hünemeier was shoved out of the picture as Dortmund failed with the "Opa Abwehr" (Grandfather Defense) of Christian Wörns and the recently retired Robert Kovac.

The one thing I'll never forget was Hünemeier's strong Bundesliga debut against Bayern. Again, we lost the match 2-1, but it wasn't Hünemeier's fault.

The kid played 90 minutes and showed that he could hang with the big boys.

Unfortunately, after that, he was injured and I believe only made one more Bundesliga appearance later that season before van Marwijk was run off at the mid-point of the next season.

Hünemeier made one end of match appearance under Thomas Doll and his chances were rendered down to nothing once BVB bought Santana, Hummels and Subotic.

Of the "van Marwijk kids", I still truly believe Amedick and Hünemeier could have made it with us.

I believe like Steven Pienaar, no one in management ever truly believed in them and their status was severely degraded after van Marwijk was shoved out the door.

I believe only Bert van Marwijk ever believed in these kids.

Sad. For me it is really sad.

Sure, we're better off now, but did we really need to go that route?

Forgot to mention. Hünemeier now joins former BVB "van Marwijk kids" Markus Brzenska and Marc-Andre Kruska at Cottbus.

 

Bad example. No one was going to wait to see what Boateng does at the World Cup because a number of clubs were in for his services well before the season finished.

One of them being Man City.

Why?

Because he had a buyout clause in his contract. That is what drove the early market for Boateng.

Bayern and Inter were also known to be considering meeting the buyout clause in his contract.

Barrios has no buyout clause.

Barrios is a player who not many clubs were going to be after. Not only did he finish "just" third in Bundesliga goal-scoring, (You don't see a ton of clubs being linked with Kiessling and he scored more than Barrios for a better team) Barrios just extended his contract with BVB through the end of the 2013-2014 season.

The only reason people are speculating about Barrios is because he has scored those three goals for Paraguay.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

I give what I know about it. How you take it is up to you.

Glad you're having a laugh. I like it better that people get the right f#cking information.

If you want to have a go at me for that, so be it.

 

The Lewandowski saga is finally over......


Borussia Dortmund agree terms with Lech Poznan for Robert Lewandowski






Polish international Robert Lewandowski joins Borussia Dortmund from Lech Poznan. "We are delighted that we have, after tough, but fair negotiations, managed to agree terms," said Borussia´s director of sports Michael Zorc.


Click here for the rest of the article at the Official BVB Website.

 

It will take one hell of an offer to get BVB to part with Barrios.


But if Barrios puts a couple past Buffon tonight, maybe some of this speculation will actually come to fruition.

I would love for us to keep Barrios for the Euro League run, but if BVB gets an offer between 15M and 20M, it will be hard to say no.

Some of the AC Milan speculation says they might be willing to offer 10M plus Klass-Jan Huntelaar.

But I believe that is more spectacular imagining by the Italian press.

Not only that, but before last season, Huntelaar refused to join Stuttgart, why would he join us just a year later?

I think ACM would actually try to "lowball" us because they know we need cash.

If we sell him, I'm hoping someone like Juve, Man Shitty, Chelsea or a club with some serious cash comes along.

If we can get 20M, I'd then offer Leverkusen about 6M to 8M of it for Patrick Helmes.

If we get 15M, I'd offer Leverkusen 4M to 6M of it for Patrick Helmes.

 

That's exactly why I said I believe they would try to lowball us.

They would probably try the Huntelaar exchange, but again, I don't believe Huntelaar would join us.

I don't know about anything between Juve and Krasic. But the rumors about them offering Diego as partial exchange for Dzeko were totally false.

It didn't happen. Again, you can't take all speculation as fact man.

Juve has money to spend. They just can't spend like before.

And to be quite honest, if they were to offer Diego and money, I think BVB would have to look at that.

It would mean moving Kagawa to striker, but I'd kill to have a Diego in our midfield.

Dude. Things change in a year's time.


That was before Leverkusen knew what they have in Derdiyok. They had planned for their strike force to be Kiessling and Helmes with Derdiyok backing them up.

But Kiessling and Derdiyok worked so well together that when Helmes was healthy again, he couldn't break the starting lineup.

Trust me, if someone offers Leverkusen 5M or over for Helmes, they'll consider it.

I'm not saying they'll take it, but they'll consider it.

Another target for me if Barrios were to be sold would be Hoffenheim's Demba Ba.

But I think he might be a bit too "lazy" to play in Klopp's system.

 

Why do you guys always assume that a move won't be made because of salary?

Believe it or not, some players do take pay cuts for a move they might want.

Juve is disappointed in Diego and if they have indicated they will move him if they can, even as part of a package deal.

You don't think Diego would take a pay cut to come back to the Bundesliga and be relevant again?

You don't think BVB would find the money to pay him at least what he got paid at Bremen?

There's more to some things than "we can't afford his wages."

Damn. I just did pretty much the same comments on the Leverkusen thread with Ballack.

If these players choose to come back to the Bundesliga, they know that unless they're going to Bayern, Wolfsburg, HSV or Hoffenheim, they're going to take a pay cut.

And even if they join one of those clubs, they're probably going to take at least a bit of a pay cut.

Before he left Bremen, Diego was nearly a lock to be on this Brazilian World Cup team.

One bad season at Juve and he's on the outside looking in.

This is a situation where I believe if the player does want to return to Germany, he'll take a pay cut to do so.

I said Leverkusen would consider the offer, not that they would take it.

And to be honest, I doubt BVB even considered asking for Helmes.

Why?

For starters, the very reason you brought about Diego. Salary.

Not just that in Helmes might not take less, but in that they know Lewandowski won't demand nearly as much as Helmes.


This is a situation where salary would play a role.

This is a situation where the player wants to fight for his position with his current club and probably wouldn't consider a move until it looks to him that he'd be spending another season on the bench.

However, given the choice of spending another season on Bayer's bench and starting for BVB, I think even Helmes would have to consider taking a bit of a pay cut to start for BVB.

But of course, that is hopeful speculation on my part. I don't know what Helmes would think.


Another reason I believe BVB went straight for Lewandowski is that BVB management just isn't into daring moves such as it would take to get Helmes. There is a reason they mostly go for cheap players.

One thing I call BVB management on an almost regular basis when it comes to transfers is "cowardly."

Unless they get the inside track, they don't usually do well in getting players.

They also won't take a chance on the player who could get us over the top.



One more thing. They really seem to fancy themselves as the top club for Polish players these days.

Nothing against the Poles, but I wish BVB would look at the Balkans more myself.