News: General 2011-2012 Ligue 1 Discussion

OL and OM both bad loses today. Neither deserve the Champions League. OM's main concern is cutting costs and saving money and OL cheaped out when hiring the manager. I'm ready to accept PSG, Montpellier, and Lille as the top 3 even though I'm not happy with it.

 

Yeah OL and OM have both made me angry with their cost cutting decisons and practices. Its gonna end up costing them both. Between MLD, Labrune, and Aulas, they dont deserve a top 3 finish. I know its France but big clubs should act like big clubs and not penny pinchers. I'd rather support Nicolin and Seydoux at this point because they know they are smaller but seem to be doing the right things. Swapping Moussa Sow for Nolan Roux was a financial move and I criticized it but its worked out brilliantly so I cant complain anymore.

 

lyon seem to be focused on the new stadium and making that happen. I've criticized Aulas for being a businessman first and a OL fan second in the past, so yeah, I see your point Sportboy.

However, what is the alternative in France when the club runs into financial problems? We don't want to become slaves to a billionaire sugar-daddy like other clubs, and unlike other leagues, French clubs cant operate in debt.

Hopefully this is just an adjustment period to having a new coach. I still like garde, and noone was criticizing him last weekend when Lyon nearly spanked PSG.

 

OM and OL still in the Champions League, not doing that well in the league. Lille and PSG, out of Europe a long time ago, doing well in the league. I dont think these things are coincidences.

 

So the socialist Presidental candidate (Mr Hollande) is proposing a new 75% tax rate for millionaires in France and some of the Ligue 1 players are already complaining. Apparently that only bolstered its support among the average French citizens who are polling at 61% approval of the idea.

 

Yea I read that today. Doesn't Ligue1 already have the lowest avg salaries of the top 5 leagues? He says the quality of the league isn't good enough to demand these salaries, yet he wants to further hinder clubs abilities to give wages the top players demand?

 

...and Marseille lost 2-0 to Evian and it was fully deserved. Jerome Leroy, 37 years old and he scored a brace. Leroy.

 

Sportboy you're being too hard on Garde. I actually think he's done an excellent job this year. Still going in the domestic cups and likely to make the quarters of the champions league. Ligue1 postioin isn't so great right now, but that can still change. He's a first time manager, with a long history at the club. He deserved a shot. Hinddink and Mourinho didn't become world beaters overnight. I think he's done a great job bringing along some of the youth players, and made some quality signings on a budget. Yea they may have come from Ligue2 or whatever, but they are performing at a level I didn't think was possible when they were signed. Season's not out, but I'd would give him B+/A- rating for his first year as Boss.

 

Good. Cant stand Margarita, Labrune, Anigo. Hope they sell the team.

 

From what I understand the reason he was hired because they were at the "end of the cycle" according to the owner. They have the 2nd highest budget in the league and lots of talent. I dont see how that's considered rebuilding. I thought they should have brought in a more experienced manager to manage all that talent instead of going cheap. I dont think PSG for example would be leading the league if AK were still around.

 

BTW, on another board there's an interesting topic about who will be hurt more by missing the Champions League should they miss it, OM or OL.

I think its obviously OM. OL has much better younger talent and I think Dechamps will leave for sure if they miss the Champions League. He's probably already fed up by the lack of money.

 

Aulas is trying to tighten the purse strings for the financing and eventual move to Lumieres. It wouldn't make sense to bring a head coach that would demand a very high salary. With that in mind, Garde was the perfect choice to lead the the team in my opinion. OL isn't exactly in 'treading water' mode, but nor are we in a position to spend even more money to win the league. Gotta make due with what we got and hope for the best. At least that's how I feel JMA is thinking.

 

The first goal of Leroy is fantastic :

http://rutube.ru/tracks/5408417.html

 

That means that Remi Garde is probably earning 3 times less money than Puel was.

He's certainly not 3 times worse a manager.

 

Kenny Daglish is, from what I can see is a terrible manager. He still makes more than Wenger and anyone in ligue1 par Ancelotti. Hey makes more than Wenger, whos been at the club 15 years!!

 

OM lost again. Basically its because they have key injuries and dont have a deep enough roster to play 4 competitions. Now they are supposedly a big club and having the 3rd highest budget in France SHOULD enable you to have a deep enough roster but thats on ownership not the manager.

 

The Bundesliga has 5 guys with over 15 goals so far and Ligue 1 has 1 guy with over 15 goals. Boring and defensive French managers are annoying. The 2nd leadering goal scorer is winger !