Gedion Zelalem at FC Den Bosch

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  1. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure. It depends on what KC means by holding midfielder or DM, as there are varying definitions of both.

    Whatever the case, Zelalem needs to add something to his game so that he can make full use of his strengths.
     
  2. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they will play him with a real DM.
     
  3. mattjo

    mattjo Member+

    Feb 3, 2001
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it is a one year contract with options years. basically they are taking a flyer on a youth player who showed some promise but had an injury. it is also unknown whether the promise he demonstrated at youth levels can translate to the real game. Wishing him the best of luck. We will learn that this year.
     
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  4. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm surprised Zelalem was able to get a contract with that structure. It puts pressure on him to perform but it also means SKC will really try to see what he's about immediately and all parties can back out if it doesn't work out.
     
  5. DirtyStriker

    DirtyStriker Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    Basehor, KS
    For SKC the 8 is usually the better ball winner, with Roger Espinoza eating up ground and players. While the 6 is more about retaining possession, someone the other players know they can play the ball to when under possession, and they can keep the ball moving. To match with Illie I think Zelalem will need to improve defensively, but I don't think he's far behind where Uri Rosell was who played the role well for us.
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    from Jan, lol, doesn't seem that farfetched now.
     
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  7. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Good for GZ.....he needs a confidence boost for sure. Tab and group know him well.
     
  8. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Rotting on the bench for SKC at the moment. 2 subs and he wasnt one....Benny acquisition sealed his fate.
     
  9. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if SKC has a bunch of option years on his deal...why is that surprising? that's not that great for him ...it puts all the power in SKCs hands while only gauranteeing him 1 season with the team....there really isn't a worse deal he could've gotten (if I understand it correctly)
     
  10. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rare interview:

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/08/15/gedion-zelalem-opens-about-his-long-road-arsenal-sporting-kc

    His star continued to rise, reaching a crescendo in American circles when he was naturalized as a US citizen.

    “It was really cool, Twitter was blowing up,” Zelalem recalled with a smile. “I didn’t really know what was happening — for me I was just playing the game, It was unbelievable. The coolest part was when I got citizenship from the US and ESPN tweeted that I got citizenship. That was pretty cool.”


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    “I knew it wasn’t going to happen at Arsenal pretty much the beginning of last season,” Zelalem said. “I could feel it. They were playing the younger guys, you could sense it around the players. I accepted it.”
     
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  11. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Assumed this thread was closed since he’s no longer abroad.

    With that said, he’s been with Swope Park Rangers the past 2 games. The star has fallen...and after watching all is SKC minutes....I can’t imagine him getting much more 1st team time.
     
  12. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I think we sometimes underestimate how much an injury can knock a player off stride: GZ, Rubin... maybe Wood. Some guys seem to know how to bounce back and for some, if though they can still play, it seems to just unbalance them enough to lose their "top player" mojo.
     
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  13. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    Seemed like his play fell off right before the injury when he was struggling to get minutes at VVV.

    I tried to follow him as much as possible when he was in Scotland and although he'd have moments of brilliance he also added absolutely nothing defensively and had zero shot to speak of so if he wasn't getting plenty of time and space to turn in the midfield he wasn't worth starting.

    It's a real shame about his injury because I do think although he obviously wasn't a "world class" talent as perhaps hoped when he first burst onto the scene he was obviously a player the US could use situationally if he continued to develop and matured. He could certainly deliver key pass here and there as a super sub.

    But he was always marginal at best athletically and after the ACL he seems completely decimated. Maybe he'll have a 2nd act but I doubt it. Can see him out of pro soccer in 5 years as much as ascending to a USMNT member or even MLS regular.
     
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  14. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I watched a lot of him at Gers. He was fine, but not suited for the Scots 2nd or Gers. He was technically precise but not fluid or aggressive. But it seems he's dropped a notch since the injury. Rubin had a similar drop. Could just be the injury affects mentality or could be the physical strain takes a toll. Or who knows.
     
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  15. madvillain

    madvillain Member+

    Aug 28, 2011
    Club:
    Brooklyn Knights
    Yea agree. A real "rook" of a player. Could curl a pass into a mailbox opening far post from 30 yards but didn't have the mentality or athletic fluidity to make it matter.

    To be frank he doesn't seem like the hardest worker in the training room either. His recovery from the ACL was slow at best. I remember seeing him doing straight line work at Arsenal 6-8 months from surgery. Some pros are already returning to almost full activity at that point. Maybe he's just a slow healer but he didn't recover well.
     
  16. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Can we never speak of that VVV loan again... except for their drunk fans on BS for a few weeks. Memories.
     
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  17. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    And Bobby Wood since his second season knee problems.

    The difference between an English Championship player and a Conference player can often be as little as 5% in one - key - area of his game. That's usually an area of weakness, but it can even be to one of his strengths dropping from top level to simply average.

    And an ACL can be a killer. You're fit again, but your mobility just isn't quite what it was and you get closed down that little bit more easily, so your killer passes either don't happen, aren't as accurate or are intercepted. Add other weaknesses - lack of athleticism, poor upper-body strength, weak shot - and you've gone from an MLS rotator to USL depth. :(
     
  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    failed in his 1st MLS try.
     
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  19. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Milestone date coming up for Gedion. He turns 23 on January 26th. According to most reports, he has to decide to retain either his German or his other citizenships by the time he turns 23.

    Here's a reference article that's pretty well researched:

    https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/2...edion-zelalem-united-states-citizenship-usmnt

    Because he was naturalized under Section 40b of the Staatsangehörigkeitsgesetz, he has to declare his intention on whether he wants to keep his German or his foreign citizenship. He can do so at any point after the age of 18. If he chooses to do nothing, he'll lose his German citizenship at the age of 23. If he wants to keep his citizenship, unless he gets an exception or approval from the German government, he'll have to renounce his foreign citizenship(s). He has to present any evidence to the German government on why he should be able to keep his German citizenship by his 21st birthday, which does give him a bit of time to mull this issue over.

    Keeping his US/Ethiopian citizenships seems to be the best choice right now. But you can make an argument that being German makes the most sense and he will have to forego USMNT eligibility.
     
  20. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The Germans won't take away his citizenship unless he tells them he wants to drop it. Now, they do expect him to drop the US-Eth citizenship. It is in the law, but as a practical matter on enforcement, they typically do not pursue this matter. The state gets queasy about demanding a citizen drop another citizenship, and doubly queasy about stripping folks of their German passports (as is the case with many, many things in daily life here, 20th century history makes them hesitant to be iron willed towards their people. There are a lot of folks walking/living around Germany with dual citizenship.
    I would think this matters because while he is now playing in the US, there are a lot more soccer jobs in the EU.
     
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  21. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  22. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    This should be a better fit than SKC. I could actually be interested in watching a team with Parks and Zelalem (if they both play).

    Zelalem said: “I’m really excited to be joining New York City FC. The Club has established a culture and style of play that I’m really looking forward to being a part of. I know they had a great season last year and the team will only go upwards from there. It’s also a great city to live in, but mostly I’m ready to win a lot of soccer matches in 2020.”

    NYCFC Head Coach, Ronny Deila, said: “Gedion is a very versatile midfielder who can play across multiple positions. He’s a creative player and possesses very good technique on the ball which is vital for a midfielder in our system. He’s eager to begin this preseason and we’re ready for him to get into camp and show off who he is as a player.”
     
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  23. keller4president

    Jan 5, 2006
    Zelalem was unceremoniously dropped by NYCFC at the end of last season (option declined). No rumors yet on where he might go next. Any chance he will return to Europe? How quickly his star has dimmed, quite sad really.
     
  24. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    There’s no guarantee he’s done at NYCFC; while they declined his option they may still sign him. There’s only 16 senior players on the roster right now. They’ve announced 0 signings since the close of last season.

    If not NYCFC it’s hard to see much of a future right now. Maybe USL, sadly enough
     
  25. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about Scandinavia? Haji Wright has resurrectd himself there...hard to believe he couldnt get a chance in Denmark or Sweden etc
     
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