Game of Thrones (Season 8) [R]

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    I definitely don't hate the show - compared to say TWD which I always maintained was hot trash

    I stopped watching after series 3 for the same reason i got stuck in book 3 - the plot was just far too drawn out for my taste

    At the end of book 2 it seemed obvious to me that things never really resolved and simply morphed into the next series of problems

    And in season 3 of the tv series, when the main battle against the wights happened off camera. I just started to feel a bit cheated by the whole thing - lost style.

    But as far as I watched it - it was quality.

    I still plan to finish book 3 some day. I've tried several times since 2013 but the trouble is you forget who everyone is ...
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    This is why I first got re-interested in the show a month or so ago

    the critiques were coming thick and fast - not just from rank and file - but from people like yourself who have a huge depth in film
     
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    Look, I know you seem to be taking any criticism of this show extremely personally, but haven't you noticed that many people who've loved this show from the beginning have acknowledged a downturn in quality? And I'm not talking here about people who are butthurt about how major plot points turned out, I mean people noticing that the show has been extremely rushed in the last couple seasons and that the general "feel" of the show has changed significantly since leaving the books behind. Sure some of these negative reviews are gonna be from the butthurt contingent, but a lot more are from people who are inclined to enjoy the show but can't help acknowledging the reality of the situation, that the show kinda went off the rails the last couple seasons.
     
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    The one takeaway I love is #breakthewheel

    Dany broke the political establishment and Sam secures it with his “let the people” decide
     
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    I haven't taken the criticism personally, it's a tv show. I just found some of the criticism to be unfounded and have tried to counter it here. I do think some of the hate I've seen online (not just here but in general) has been overblown and people hate just to hate but that's fandom in general. I just find online ratings to be utterly useless because the most vocal opponents of something are usually found online, whether it's something I agree with or disagree with. The majority of people I know that watch GoT had no problems with the past couple seasons, there were a few that had the same reactions I've seen here, but most didn't. Then again it's just my experiences with people, so it could be totally different for other people.

    It would seem that some people are taking the haters gonna hate comment a bit personally.
     
  6. luftmensch

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    Not taking it personally, it just seemed defensive and not at all appropriate to the type of criticism taking place here. Now if we were saying "OMG how they kill Khaleesi and put weird cripple on throne, I so done with this show!" you'd have a point.

    And I guess we move in different circles, based just on my Facebook feed the majority of people I know who watch the show are somewhere between disappointed and outraged about this final season.
     
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    TWD is one of those shows where you can stop watching for 2 seasons, come back and watch a few episodes and not have missed a thing. LOL!
     
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    LOL!
     
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    Yeah, Tyrian says their Holy Roman Empire style elected emperor thing is going to end the capriciousness of hereditary absolutism. Then, the Lord Elector of Casterly Rock tells the slave Grey Worm, "Thats the wheel she was trying to break".

    Which is total bullshit. She was fighting for hereditary divine right absolutism. Its the only reason R+L=J was even a thing at all. She was going to go from place to place eliminating middle management. Jon said other people know what is good, meaning Sansa and other Lords. Dany said they dont get to choose. Thats when Jon stabbed her.

    Their Electoral-succession plan, Devolving power to Highborn Lords is the opposite of the wheel she said she wanted to break. And unenlightened GreyWorn and even less woke Dothraki just shrugged it off.

    The Unsullied should have killed every one of them.

    Solidarity, Reg.
     
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    ^^^^

    THAT would have been epic
     
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    So Grey Worm was going to go free the slaves on Missandei's home island, right? That's what that scene was about?
     
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    Nah they don't have slaves on her home island, they were the place that other places raided to get slaves because they were so chill. I assumed he was going to pay respects or return her remains or something.
     
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    This part I didn't really get either.

    Throughout the show everyone has been so power hungry and bloodthirsty.

    Seems odd that the Unsullied/Dothraki, having just won a huge victory, would accept their Queen being murdered and hand over power for no reason to some kid?
     
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    I thought this too, but without a clear cut leader, how would they retain their hold on Westeroast? They needed the Iron Queen to keep them all fighting together. I'd think they figured better to leave alive and go back to Essos than die in this foreign land. Though, leaving without getting their justice is just weird.
     
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    There was an army of Northmen outside the city. They all just fought two major wars. Would they really be interested in fighting a third without a unifying leader?
     
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    Didn't they see half their forces wiped out in a battle, (for NO gains), as well against the zombie king? Although they played a part at KL it's not like they were the ONLY group and, in that effort, let's be honest, they were all rather 2nd best to a big arse dragon they'd ALL just seen leg it.... well, 'flap it', I suppose but you know what I mean.

    I can see them being a bit disgruntled but, without a leader, they're a bit of a rabble who are just as likely to start killing each other as the opposition... whoever THAT might be.

    The 'grey wormists' are highly disciplined but if he, himself, wasn't able to grab and kill JS, (and I'm guessing he was found first by the northerners or gave himself up to them), and they'd have had to fight THROUGH the people they'd just been fighting alongside to try and grab him.

    So, all in all, I can see it happening for purely logistical reasons of timing and availability.
     
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    But wouldn't they at least want something?

    The whole show has been about that political skulduggery
     
  22. Naughtius Maximus

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    So you're saying that the elites are out of touch and are 'enemies of the people'? :eek:

    :giggle:

    I keeed, I keeed :)

    Yeah, well, they got screwed, didn't they.
     
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